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Carl Schumann Porcelain Factory, AG

(original founding name in 1881 was Schumann & Riess)

Arzberg, Bavaria, Germany

c. 1881-1994

Founded in 1881 by Christian Heinrich Schumann (1822-1884)

Heinrich and Christiana Schumann's 4th and youngest child was Carl Schumann I (1871-1926)

Heinrich named Carl I as his sole heir to the Schumann factory**

At Heinrich's passing in 1884, his wife Christiana Schumann (1838-1928) took charge of the factory

Factory was renamed Carl Schumann & Co. c.1892 (Carl's 21st birthday)

Christiana turned the factory over to Carl I in 1896

Factory was converted to a corporation (AG) on July 19, 1923, and became Carl Schumann Porzellanfabrik AG

Carl Schumann I passed in 1926

Carl Schumann II (1898-1975) became successor to Carl I

Carl II studied in America in the1920's and founded the Schumann China Corporation of New York

The Schumann China Corporation distributed Schumann products in the U. S. in the early 1930's (possibly late 1920's)

Carl II resigned in 1961 and was succeeded by Carl III

Carl III resigned in 1981 and was succeeded by another branch of the family

The business was reorganized, but was eventually sold to investors in 1990

It finally closed in 1994.

 

**Heinrich and Christiana Schumann's second child was Christopher (1864-1916) and has on occasion been confused as being the founder of the Carl Schumann factory in Arzberg, as well as confused as being the father of Carl.  That is not true according to an excellent and thorough source we've found.  Christian Heinrich Schumann, the father of both Christopher and Carl, was the founder of what came to be called the Carl Schumann Porcelain Factory in Arzberg.  Christopher and Carl were brothers.  Carl, the youngest, was obviously the favored child because of his interest in the business and was named by his father, Heinrich, as sole heir to the Schumann factory.  Following the passing of Heinrich (the father) in 1884 and during the years that Christiana (the mother) managed the factory, Christopher decided to leave the family business in 1887 and start his own factory, also in Arzberg.  His efforts were short-lived, however, when by 1891 he sold out to Lehmann, the founder of what eventually became Porcelain Factory Arzberg.   In the meantime, Christopher had married into the very old and very wealthy Schreider family who were great land owners in the city of Schwarzenhammer.   Christopher eventually went into business with his father-in-law, Karl August Schreider, and in 1905 established the Schumann and Schreider Porcelain Factory in Schwarzenhammer.

 

Click here for a very interesting story about Johanna Schumann, wife of Carl II

 

 

 

 

Introduction

You'll find on this page information I've been accumulating about the Carl Schumann Porcelain Factory of Arzberg, Bavaria, Germany.  I undertook this project a few years ago as a service in response to the many questions I started receiving about Schumann.  In fact, at this point, it has taken on a life of its own and has grown far beyond anything I expected.  I literally receive numerous e-mails from various parts of the world on a daily basis about Schumann.  I welcome those e-mails and appreciate each and every one of you who send us your family stories and pictures of your beautiful Schumann.  I've even heard from a few families who (both they and their Schumann) thankfully survived Hurricane Katrina.  Thanks to each of you for sharing your family history and experiences.

 

As I progress and learn more, I continue to research, revise our opinions, and update this information.  Please remember this is only an attempt to piece together an ongoing puzzle and nothing is guaranteed or set in stone.  Please forgive any mistakes in my assumptions, as I'm quite certain there are many.

Please contact us if you can help in the least way. 

I welcome all e-mails, even if it's just to say you appreciate what you have found and have learned from it -- I've received many, many such comments.  Thank you.  Knowing that I have helped others in some small way makes worthwhile all the many hours, days, months, and years that we have devoted to this project.

 

Scroll down this page for our ongoing comments which I have tried to group in logical order by topic, beginning with Factory Dates.  Following our ongoing general comments, you will eventually come to our Tables of Schumann Marks and Patterns, which I hope you find to be a good visual for researching your Schumann.

 

Read on -- I hope you find this as interesting as I have.

 

 

Factory Dates

The Schumann Factory was first established in 1881 in Arzberg, Bavaria, Germany, and finally ceased production in 1994.  Early in my research, I found a German website and have e-mail communication that confirms the 1994 closing date (see footnotes 6 and 7 below)

 

Although the factory shut down in 1994, a Schumann factory outlet stayed open for approximately another 10 years in Arzberg, apparently for the purpose of selling off what was left of the Schumann inventory.  I am told that the outlet finally closed in 2004 or early 2005 -- a sad final note in the history of this great old porcelain factory.(54)

 

 

Ebeling and Reuss

 Ebeling & Reuss of Philadelphia/ Devon/Allentown, Pennsylvania, were the exclusive American importers of Schumann beginning in the late 1940's.  I do have indication that they imported Schumann under the name Erphila prior to World War II (back into the 1930's or even earlier) but I don't know if they were exclusive importers at that time.

I have in my possession an assortment of old E & R brochures, ads, and pamphlets from the late 1940's, 1950's, and 1960s,  all of which have been tremendously helpful in dating some of the Schumann patterns.

 

The E & R ads from the late 1940's are advertising the many Schumann patterns they were importing at that time.  The earliest ad I have is dated January 1948 and is promising immediate delivery after January 1, 1948, although this ad does not specify the particular patterns to be imported.  However, an August 1949 E & R ad is advertising specific patterns, including the popular Empress Dresden and Chateau Dresden.  The ad is also identifying them as being made in U. S. Zone Germany, which is referring to the years 1945-49 when Bavaria was occupied by the U. S. after the end of World War II.  I don't know what mark, if any, E & R was using at that time.  I have yet to find an E & R mark of any kind on any of the U. S. Zone pieces.

 

For example, I have direct information regarding a set of Empress that was purchased brand new in 1948 in Pennsylvania, though not necessarily through E & R -- the exact origin of purchase is unknown to the current family member, although it does seem logical that E & R might have been the source.(59)  That set does not have an E & R mark at all, but is marked U. S. Zone.  Either E & R was not marking at that time, or the set came into the U.S. through another channel (see ** paragraphs in the American Market section below for possible options, as well as Footnote 2C found after the Table of Marks below).

 

The E & R blue Golden Crown mark, frequently found on Schumann china, was apparently not used until the 1950's.  It is shown in reference books as having been put into use beginning in 1955.  However, I have a copy of an Ebeling & Reuss pamphlet dated 1954 which came with a set of Schumann Platinum Elegance purchased new in 1954 and does have the Golden Crown mark (see footnote 15 below), although the pamphlet itself does not illustrate the mark.  Whether or not the Golden Crown mark goes back any further than 1954, I don't know.

 

As to how long the E & R blue Golden Crown mark was used on Schumann China, the DMA (Dallas Museum of Art book discussed in American Market section below), page 289, says that E & R dropped many of its European lines in 1976 because of economic issues in Europe, as well as economic problems within E & R itself.   I am, therefore, adjusting my dates accordingly and assume that any Schumann with the E & R mark is dated 1976 or earlier, although actual distribution to the public might not have occurred until much later, as inferred in Footnotes 3A and 38 below.

 

E & R imported other product lines besides Schumann and did use a variety of marks back through the years.  As already mentioned earlier in this section, I know they were importing European wares prior to World War II under the name Erphila,   but I am not sure if they imported Schumann at that time.  I have suspected that they did and now have evidence indicating that might have been the case -- read Footnote 86 below.

If any one of you out there has anything, Schumann or otherwise, with E & R marks of any kind that you can date (through family history or otherwise) prior to 1955, please e-mail me.

 

Ebeling & Reuss is still in business today in Pennsylvania, but has been purchased by a large corporation.  I have tried unsuccessfully to find a current and working e-mail or phone number for E & R, so if anyone can help with that, please let me know.

 

(More comments about E & R in the American Market section below)

 

 

Schumann Patterns

 

Some of the More Popular Patterns

OLD Dresden (straight edge solid rim)

Empress Dresden (scalloped edge solid rim) Chateau Dresden (scalloped edge reticulated rim) Forget-Me-Not (scalloped edge solid rim) Chalet Forget-Me-Not (scalloped edge reticulated rim)

I have come to believe that pattern names, with or without the E & R importer's mark, were probably added by the Schumann factory for the most part for the American market, though not 100%.  A good example of an exception is "Vergissmeinnicht" (German for Forget-Me-Not) having been found on pieces that have either stayed in Europe or were purchased in Europe and brought here later.  The design is, however, totally different than the FMN known here in America. 

As you study the table of marks below, you'll see numerous examples of pattern names that were obviously added after-the-fact.  Many appear to be older pre-existing pieces that were most likely manufactured pre-1945 but not distributed until after the war ended in 1945.

 

Regarding some of the more popular Schumann patterns, I believe the Chateau Dresden pattern ceased (read more below) in the 1960's and the Empress Dresden pattern in the 1980's (we have communicated with someone who purchased a complete set of new Empress in the early 1980's from a local jewelry store who had to special order the set directly from the factory in Germany).

 

 The *Chateau Dresden and *Chalet Forget-Me-Not patterns are shown in the 1961 E& R brochure, but are both missing from the 1965-66 brochure, which indicates that the Chateau and Chalet patterns most likely did cease production somewhere between 1961 and 1965. 

*Chateau is the reticulated (pierced rim) version of the Dresden Flowers and is complementary to the Empress solid rim dinnerware.

  *Chalet is the reticulated (pierced rim) version of the Forget-Me-Not and is complementary to the FMN solid rim dinnerware.

 

I have no information so far about the actual beginning dates for any of these patterns, except our marks shown below, as well as our old E & R ads, show that the Empress Dresden and Chateau Dresden patterns, as well as the Chalet Forget-Me-Not all go back at least as far as the 1940's when the U. S. Zone mark was used (1945-1949, the years when the U.S. occupied Bavaria, Germany, just after World War II). 

 

At this point, I believe that the Empress and Chateau were both in existence prior to 1945, although they might not yet have been named as such.  Just how far back the Empress actually goes, I don't know.  As for the Chateau, I have bought and sold numerous "Chateau" pieces that were clearly Chateau and clearly, based on the marks, from the 1920's-30's era, but were not identified as Chateau.

The more I study the marks, the more I am convinced of the pre-1945 existence of both patterns.  In fact, in support of my belief are the old E & R ads of 1949 which refer to both Empress and Chateau as being "...generations old, yet ever appealing..."  Empress is also referred to as "...truly Schumann's Masterpiece..." and "Carl Schumann's famous old-world Dresden decoration -- never changed since it was first introduced generations ago....our finest pattern..."

 

The Forget-Me-Not solid rim version (not Chalet) is yet another mystery.(3A, 21, 38)  My oldest documentation for it is the December 1952 E & R ad which shows it among the patterns available at that time.  I believe it probably goes back even further.  I don't know for certain how long the it was in production, although I know it was still in production into the 1960's.  My two old E & R pamphlets, one dated 1961 and one dated 1965-66, both show the Forget-Me-Not solid rim as being one of Schumann's "latest masterpieces."  I've also heard from a couple who purchased a brand new set in 1980(38); I believe that set was probably old inventory and probably no newer than around 1976.  As mentioned above, E & R dropped many of its European lines in 1976 because of economic issues, so I assume that any Schumann with the E & R mark is no newer than around 1976, regardless of how long it took to reach the end consumer.

 

 

Schumann Red Crown Mark

(see Table of Marks below)

The red crown mark and all of its many variations has turned into quite a challenge all by itself as to exactly when it may have first been used by Schumann.  However, we do have a few developments:

 

(1)I have indication that one form of the red crown mark (with only the words "Schumann Bavaria") was apparently used as far back as 1918.  This belief is based on information from Kenny Sugarman of Douglas, Arizona.  He has in his possession a portrait plate (shown below in our table of patterns) that was handed down to him from his father; Kenny's father received the plate directly from an aunt and uncle who told him it was one of their wedding gifts; he said they were married in New York somewhere around 1918 -- they are basing this date on the age of the oldest child of that couple.  That portrait plate has the red crown mark.  Kenny, thanks to both you and your father for this helpful information!! 

(2)In support of Kenny's information above, Barb VanderRoest of Amherst Nova Scotia Canada, also has a beautiful portrait plate (shown below in our table of patterns) similar to Kenny's and with the same red crown mark with only the words "Schumann Bavaria."  It is the surviving plate of a pair that originally belonged to her grandmother in Nova Scotia.  Barb's mother, born in 1920, remembers the plates as a very young child.  She was told that she broke the second plate when she was a toddler.  Barb, thanks for being willing to share such interesting and valuable information!!

(3)I have also heard from a lady who has some Schumann Wild Rose Blush pieces with the red crown mark and only the words Wild Rose and Schumann Arzberg Germany.  They were given to her in 1983 by a client who was then in her 80's and said they were from pre-war Germany and that she inherited them from her mother who was from Germany.  This helps to further verify the older age of the red crown mark.

(4)Yet another piece of information is from Dmitry in Brooklyn, New York, who has a set of an early version of the Wild Rose pattern with the red crown mark.  They originally belonged to a lady who fled Nazi Germany in the 1930's and brought the dishes with her at that time.

 

As you study the red marks (as well as the others) in the tables below, you'll see that I have tried to group them as much as possible according to the various combinations of words of origin in the mark.  For example, (1)Bavaria; (2)Bavaria Germany; (3)Germany; (4)Arzberg Bavaria; (5)Arzberg Bavaria Germany; and so on -- you see how complicated this is.  As you will notice below, even the placement and order of the same words vary from mark to mark.  Why such inconsistency??? -- we don't know.

Notice also that the words are either (1) part of the original mark; or (2) were added at a late time.  For those that were obviously added at a later time, I have displayed them in contrasting colors to make it easier in trying to study and distinguish the differences in the marks and the progression of their use.

In summary, I have tried to organize all the marks in priority order by (1)Style; (2)Color; (3)Words; (4)Order of Words; (5)Placement of Words; (6)circa Dates.

 

 

Bavarian History

A little summary of Bavarian History which I have read from a variety of sources is the basis for many of my dating assumptions about the wide variety of Schumann marks, many of which seem to have overlapped with one another as to years of use.  Marion Weinreich of Hamburg, Germany, a retired history teacher, has been of tremendous help to me in sorting out this complicated history.  For our purposes here, we've tried to streamline it as much as possible:

 

1806-1871 = Bavaria was an independent kingdom

1871-1918 = Bavaria became a part of the newly formed German Empire in 1871

1918-1933 = Bavaria was one of the individual states inside the newly formed

Federal Republic of Germany following WW I

1933-1945 = Bavaria and others lost state status to Nazi Germany

1945-49 = Bavaria in U. S. Zone of Germany following WW II

1949-1990 = Bavaria part of West Germany**

1990-Present = Germany reunited

Bavaria is currently the largest state in Germany.

**Germany was divided into East and West in 1949 following World War II.

FRG = Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany)

GDR = German Democratic Republic (East Germany)

(Source:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West Germany and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German Democratic Republic)

 

As I learn more, I continue to make revisions.  I also continue to ask such questions as -- why did Schumann have so many different versions of marks and why did they apparently overlap with one another??; what do the numbers mean??  This continues to be complicated and intriguing.  You will see that I continue to add many notations along with the marks; I do that just as much for myself as for my viewers.

 

 

World War II, Military, American Market

One thing you will notice are my comments that some words (U.S. Zone for example, as well as pattern names) were obviously added to pre-existing pieces -- inferring that there were pieces that survived the war.  Before you immediately say that everything was destroyed in the war, I had e-mail communication with someone a few years ago who had incredible knowledge of Schumann and how they managed to protect their china during the war.  I won't go into detail here because I have lost touch with that person (the e-mail is no longer active).  If you are reading this and you are that person, please e-mail me I have withheld pertinent details here which only you will knowI will maintain your confidentiality if you wish, or credit you here with your permissionPlease contact me.

 

I have also communicated with someone who told me about being stationed in Germany during the early 1950's and buying Dresden from a shop owner who told him that many of the Dresden pieces just then coming on the market had been crated and buried during World War II in order to protect them.  He told me he bought the pieces to ship back to the U.S. for his mother.  His information has confirmed what I suggested in the footnotes below about the possibility of Schumann entering the U.S. through the military, even into the 1950's, thereby bypassing importers and retailers and their related marks.**  He has also reconfirmed what I just discussed above about porcelain pieces having survived the war and distributed later.

**In support of the previous paragraph, we now have a wonderful book (already mentioned in another paragraph above) from the Dallas Museum of Art called "China and Glass in America, 1880-1980, From Tabletop to TV Tray."  Page 231 of this book discusses the large volumes of fine quality china that were distributed through the Military PX's in Germany beginning just after the end of World War II and continuing through the 1950's.  This method bypassed the American importers and retailers and also their related marks.  However, in 1961, the U S. government started requiring the PXs to go through American importers to acquire their products.

 **Page 231 also discusses another option for entry of Schumann china into the U.S. -- through the Department of Commerce and a special division called U. S. Commercial Company (USCC) which was created specifically for the purpose of exporting 50% of the porcelain production of Germany.  The U. S. was the primary consumer of that 50%.  The remaining 50% of Germany's porcelain production was divided between the U. S. Military PX's (25%) and the German citizens (25%)(Source:  "China and Glass in America, 1880-1980, From Tabletop to TV Tray" by the Dallas Museum of Art, page 231)

Also of interest in the book is page 289 which is devoted to a lengthy discussion of the importer Ebeling and Reuss.  We don't know if the USCC worked through E & R or independent of them.  Perhaps E & R took up where the USCC ended -- we don't know.  What we do know is that E & R was importing Schumann china as least as early as January 1, 1948, as documented by our old E & R ads and which we have already discussed several paragraphs above.

If you wish to purchase this book, it's available through the DMA Museum Store.  This book is well worth the money and gives a great insight into the history of china in America and the European connection.

 

As to who marketed Schumann to the end-consumer in the U.S., we have interesting e-mails with information that Schumann was apparently being sold by Marshall Field in Chicago and Gump's in San Francisco as far back as the 1930's.(76)  We also now know that Alfred Orlik had a shop on Madison Avenue in New York as early as 1940 and perhaps earlier.  We have an October 1940 issue of House Beautiful magazine with an Alfred Orlik ad for an English breakfast set.  The Orlik name in the ad is in the exact same style as the one found on hand painted Schumann Forget-Me-Not plates that have the Schumann U. S. Zone mark which dates to 1945-1949.  Apparently Orlik was a china retailer before and after World War II.  Just how long he was in business, we don't yet know.  No doubt other high-end department stores, jewelry stores, and china shops across the country were also marketers for Schumann.  We have recently received information that J. C. Penney was yet another retail source for Schumann in the 1950's.

  Prior to World War II, Schumann acted as its own importer and distributor and operated 1931-1941 under the name Schumann China Corporation of New York.  According to the DMA book mentioned above, Schumann was sold under the brand names "Dresdner Art China" and "Schumann Bavaria" during those years of 1931-1941.  As to how Schumann was imported and distributed prior to 1931, we don't yet know.

After the war, E & R became the exclusive U. S. importer of Schumann with showrooms in New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, and Los Angeles.  They eventually added showrooms in Dallas, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Cleveland, and Detroit.  Warehouses were in Philadelphia and Pasadena.

 

 

Closing Comments

Anyone who can add additional information is welcome to e-mail me to help make this more accurate and complete.  Friendly, helpful e-mails are always welcome.  Thanks to each of you who continue to write to me with additional pieces to this puzzle.  I will credit you by name, city, state, and country unless you request otherwise.  If you wish to remain anonymous, I will honor that request.

 

More information on the way as I have time!!

 

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Tables of Schumann Marks and Patterns
I have tried to post these marks chronologically as much as possible, but have also tried to keep like marks together which sometimes results in a break in the chronology.

The approximate dates of the marks are based on various popular reference books, although many of them offer conflicting information as to the dates, as well as based on my own speculation and assumptions based on dates of similar marks and on information I have gathered from family histories of those with whom I have corresponded across the country and in person (see footnotes below).

You will probably notice some variations in spelling, such as Dresdener, Dresdner, Dresden.  No, those are not typos, but just variations of the many Schumann marks.

I continue to adjust dates as I learn more.

Schumann Marks
Picture contributed by C.S. of North Carolina Picture courtesy of anonymous contributor in Portland, Oregon, USA Picture contributed by Larry Sears, Bloomington, Illinois Picture Courtesy of Jeanet in Santa Rosa, California Picture contributed by Ted and Pam Coombes in Ketchum, Oklahoma, USA
c.1900 or older??(35) c.1900 or older?? (44) c.1900 or older(43) c.1900 or older (53) c.1914 (62)
CS Bavaria

A very early Schumann mark (not sure which Schumann)  See Footnote 35 for more details.

I see this mark identified quite frequently as Christopher Schumann and misidentifying him as the father of Carl.  Christopher WAS NOT the father of Carl.  He was Carl's brother Please be sure to read Footnote 35 below for more details.

CS Bavaria Dresden Flowers

Same as previous marks except for the added Dresden Flowers.

Please be sure to read Footnote 35 below for more details.

CS Bavaria

Same as previous mark except for color, so I assume the same time frame.

Please be sure to read Footnote 35 below for more details.

CS Bavaria

1724 - 3-17

Dresden

Same as previous mark except for unusual additives.  The Dresden mark was possibly a decorating studio in Dresden, Germany.  Be sure to read Footnote 53 below.

Please be sure to read Footnote 35 below for more details.

CS Bavaria

To Mrs. Fern Wendt From Mrs. T. C. Meyers Xmas 1914

Handwritten and dated inscription found on a set with a combination of both the red and green CS marks.  Be sure to read Footnote 62 below.

Please be sure to read Footnote 35 below for more details.

         
Notice that these old "shield" marks in the next few rows appear to be in assorted shades of blue, black, gold, and green.  Some are borderline and difficult to distinguish.  I have also learned that this particular style old Schumann mark was used on whiteware blanks sent to America during the early decades of the 20th century, as well as on whiteware used by decorating studios in Bavaria.
Picture contributed by Deb and Ken of Gaithersburg, Maryland Picture contributed by D.S. in South Carolina Schumann Mark contributed by Elsa
c. pre-1920's (64) c.pre-1920's (63) c.1920's (73) c.1920's c.pre-1920's?? (2A)
Bavaria Schumann

All words printed in same style

Kovel's, page 144, dates this mark to c. 1918 to ??

However, it appears this mark must have been used as early as 1910, based on information regarding a 1910 wedding gift.  

(Be sure to read Footnotes 64 and 64A below.)

Bavaria Schumann

Notice the difference in style of this mark, includ the black color.

Based on the new information at left, could this one also be 1910??

Paired with a green triangular mark shown below.

Bavaria Schumann Porzellan

Paper label on back of an old brooch.

Bavaria Schumann

Schumann Porzellan

Germany

Paper label on back of an old brooch.  Orange label, gold mark.  Germany stamped in black, probably at a later time.

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg

All words printed in same style.

This is the first evidence I have of Arzberg being part of the old blue mark.

         
c.pre-1920's??(64A) c.1920's c.pre-1920's (63) c.1920's-30's c.1920's-30's
Dresden Schumann Bavaria

All words printed in same style.

 

Bavaria Schumann Dresdener Art

All words printed in same style.

Appears to be a forerunner of Dresdner Art China shown below.

Bavaria Schumann

Notice the difference in style of this mark, including the black color.  Paired with a green triangular Bavaria mark.  

Another example of the unknown triangle mark (63A)

Most likely a New York importer of Bavarian products.

Bavaria Schumann

FOREIGN

The added word "Foreign" as part of the mark infers the ware was made by Schumann for export outside Germany.

 

Bavaria Schumann

14768 D

This mark found on a beautiful figural plate very similar to those that have the Eleanor Bavaria mark, so believe it may also be an Eleanor, though not marked as such.

The numbers are probably a pattern number.

         
c.1930's (87) Pre-1942 (30) Pre-1946 (13) Pre-1946 (13) 1940's (88)
Bavaria Schumann

BAVARIA

V

The blue crown BAVARIA V mark we assume is a decorator's mark.

I have seen a large V with other German marks besides Schumann, but don't know what it means.  E-mail if you know.

  Bavaria Schumann

Bavaria V

Blue crown mark like the next two marks except with the added V.  We assume these blue crowns are decorator marks.

Found on dishes dating to before 1942.

Schumann, Bavaria Schumann, Handmalerei, Schott

Handmalerei is German for hand painted. 

Schott is probably the decorator.

We assume the blue crown is a decorator's mark.

Schumann, Bavaria Schumann, Handmalerei, Riehl

Handmalerei is German for hand painted. 

Riehl is probably the decorator. 

We assume the blue crown is a decorator's mark.

Bavaria Schumann

Bavaria Schumann

Same wording on both marks.  Shield mark at left is whiteware manufacturing mark.   Crown mark at right is decorating mark.

Found on a small plate with military emblems.  Be sure to read Footnote 88.

         
Picture contributed by Augie Braun in Illinois Picture contributed by Joseph and Jackie Watkins in Georgia Picture courtesy of Jennifer Gaumond, Pennsylvania, USA
c.1920's-30's (69) c.1920's-30's (75) c.1920's-30's (86) Pre-1932 (42) 1945-49 (85)
Bavaria Schumann

EDGERTON

The Edgerton mark is one of the decorating marks used by Pickard China in Chicago, Illinois, during the years 1928-38.

This serves as evidence that this old blue Schumann mark was used on whiteware sent to America. 

Bavaria Schumann

ELEANOR BAVARIA

Eleanor was possibly an exporter in Bavaria.

Bavaria Schumann

ERPHILA

This is presumably for Ebeling and Reuss and possibly one of its earliest marks, though not documented until now as far as we know since we haven't been able to find it in any of the many books we have.

(Be sure to read Footnote 86 below)

Bavaria Schumann

Hand Painted HLH 1932

Printed mark in same style as old 1918 blue mark, except this one is green.  The signature and date of the decorator confirms our earlier belief that the green version is a whiteware mark.  Though decorated in 1932, the blank wares would have been manufactured much earlier.

 Bavaria Schumann Germany U S Zone

Printed mark in same style as old 1918 blue mark, except this one is green and obviously a whiteware mark.

Be sure to read Footnote 85 below.

         

Picture Courtesy of DK in Michigan
c.1930's (45) c.1933-Pre-WW II?* c.1930's (2B) c.1933-Pre-WW II?* c.1933-Pre-WW II?*
Bavaria Schumann

A. A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh, Made in Germany, Richard G. Krueger, N.Y., Fully Protected U.S. Pat. Off., Stephen Slesinger Inc.

Bavaria Schumann Germany

*The stamped Germany was probably added to pre-existing pieces  in 1933 or later after Bavaria lost its independence to Germany. 

 

 

Dresdner Art China

Bavaria Schumann

Made in Bavaria

Bridal Chain

Appears to be a forerunner to the Royal Dresdner red marks below and probably old inventory carried over to the 1930's for distribution in America.

Dresdner Art China was a brand name used in  late 1920's-1930's by New York-based  Schumann China Corporation which existed specifically for distribution of Schumann products in the U.S. during that era.

Schumann Bavaria Germany

*The second mark was obviously a replacement for another mark that was ground out.

*The stamped Germany was probably added to pre-existing pieces in 1933 or later after Bavaria lost its independence to Germany.

These ground out marks were found in the same tea set, so I am displaying them here side-by-side.

 

Bavaria Schumann

Schumann Germany

*Bavaria was obviously ground out.  A barely visible Germany is stamped at the far right.  This was probably done in 1933 or later after Bavaria lost its independence to Germany.

These ground out marks were found in the same tea set, so I am displaying them here side-by-side.

         
Picture Courtesy of Mary Price in Ohio Picture courtesy of Mary Price in Ohio

1924-Pre-WW II?? (70) 1924-Pre-WW II?? (70) 1924-Pre-WW II?? (36) 1924-Pre-WW II?? (36) c.1924-Pre-WW II?? (36)
Schumann

Just like some of the other old blue crown marks that follow, except it only has the one word -- no additives as you see in the others.

Schumann Bavaria

Just like some of the other old blue crown marks that follow, except it only has the two words -- no additives as you see in the others.

Schumann Bavaria

Bavaria is stamped, not printed, and in a different style than next mark and was apparently added at a later time.

Schumann Bavaria

The writing on the back of the plate with this mark leaves no doubt as to the 1924 date, which agrees with the reference noted in Footnote 36 below.  Bavaria is stamped and not printed and in different style than previous mark.

Schumann Dresden

Same as the next mark except Bavaria not included at all.

 

       

 

Picture Courtesy of Blanche Kevlin of Dallas, Texas

 

Floating Crown

c.1924-Pre-WW II?? (36)

 

c.1930-Pre-WW II?? (20)

 

c.1940's-50s??? (99)

Schumann Dresden Bavaria

Same as previous mark except for the stamped Bavaria which was apparently added at a later time.  Below is yet another variation:

  Bavaria Schumann

Double-marked with the old blue mark put into use c.1918, at time of   manufacture, and the gold mark, probably applied at time of decoration and probably in the 1930's.

  Schumann Bavaria Germany Westwood

Not really sure about this mark, but am putting it here for now.  I have come to believe this is more likely to be c.1940's-50's

         
Picture contributed by Mary Gavin of La Canada California Picture contributed by Mary Gavin of La Canada California

Floating Crown

1931-1941 (2B) 1931-1941 (2B) (31) 1931-1941 (2B)(31) 1931-1941 (2B)(28) 1931-1941 (2B)(23)
Dresden Schumann Bavaria

Dresdner Art China Schumann Made in Bavaria 12398

Both marks are in the style of the old blue mark that dates back to at least 1918.

The gold Dresdner Art mark was added at a later time and appears to be yet another variation of the ones used by Schumann China Corporation of New York who distributed Schumann products 1931-1941 in the U.S.

The number 12398 may be a pattern number.

Bavaria Schumann Dresdener Art

Dresdner Art China, Betsy Ross

(Notice the two spellings of Dresdener/Dresdner)

Betsy Ross must be a pattern or series name

Old blue mark that dates back to at least 1918. 

The Dresdner Art mark was added at a later time and appears to be a variation of one used by Schumann China Corporation of New York who distributed Schumann products 1931-1941 in the U.S.

Dresden Schumann Bavaria

Dresdner Art China, Betsy Ross

Betsy Ross must be a pattern or series name.

Old blue mark that dates back to at least 1918.

The Dresdner Art mark was added at a later time and  appears to be a variation of one used by Schumann China Corporation of New York who distributed Schumann products 1931-1941 in the U.S.

Royal Dresdner Art, Carl Schumann, Bavaria Schumann

Old blue mark that dates back to at least 1918.

Like the two previous marks, but with the added word Royal

  The Royal Dresdner Art mark was added at a later time between 1931 and 1941 by Schumann China Corporation of New York who distributed Schumann products 1931-1941 in the U.S.

Royal Dresdner Art, Carl Schumann, Made in Bavaria

All words printed in same style. This is the mark of Schumann China Corporation of New York who distributed Schumann products 1931-1941 in the U.S.

         
Picture courtesy of Shellie Tipton of Verona, Kentucky
c.1931-1941?? (2B)(20A) c.1931-1941?? (2B)(8)(20A) c.1931-1941?? (20)(20A) c.1931-1941?? (20A) c.1933-1941?? (2B)(20A)
Royal Bavarian Dresdner Art Schumann Made in Bavaria

Only the words Made in Bavaria, without Germany.

Bavaria Schumann DES. PATENTED NO 84287

Schumann Bavaria Pat.No.18450 Garland

Added patent numbers, as well as double-marked.  Gold mark is old Schumann decorating mark.

Bavaria Schumann

None Genuine Without This Trade Mark

Unusual added wording.

Bavaria Schumann Bavaria Schumann Germany

The stamped Germany may have been added to pre-existing pieces in 1933 when Bavaria lost its independence to Germany.

         
Red Crown Marks, Group I = Schumann Bavaria...
Picture Courtesyof Kenny Sugarman

Floating Crown

Picture contributed by NBJ in Chicago Illinois
c.1918-30's?? (2)(11)(11A) c.1920's-30's?? (2) c.Post-WW II (104) c.Post-WW II?? (67) c.Post-WWII?? (67)
Schumann Bavaria

All words printed in same style.  This mark is the first indication I  have that the red crown mark was possibly used as early as 1918 -- read Footnotes 11 and 11A below.

(Found on an old portrait plate.)

Schumann Bavaria

All words printed in same style.

Similar to previous mark, except top of crown is slightly different.

(Found on a Dresden Swags cup and saucer)

Schumann Bavaria

Possibly a decorating mark

Schumann Bavaria

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Found on what is apparently an advertising piece for Schumann (see next column) with an added handwritten Ebeling and Reuss.

This red mark is on both the front side and the back side.

Be sure to notice the additional odd mark in the middle of the ad piece in the next picture.

Schumann Bavaria

Schumann China, Famous All Over the World, Bavaria Schumann

EBELING & REUSS PHILADELPHIA

I think this is probably from after the war and that Ebeling & Reuss added their name when they resumed importing Schumann to the U.S. just after the war ended in 1945. 

         
c.1930's-1950?? (2) c.Pre-1945?? (2) 1945-49 (1)(2) 1945-49 (1)(2) 1945-49 (1)(2)
Schumann Bavaria Dresden Line

  Dresden Line is pattern or series name -- appears to have been added later, possibly around 1950 or so to pre-existing pieces that were probably manufactured pre-1945.

 I think the pattern names were probably added for the American market after the war.

Schumann Bavaria GERMANY

GERMANY added in gold apparently at a later time.

(Found on a Betsy Ross reticulated bowl)

Schumann Bavaria Germany US ZONE

The stamped in black Germany US ZONE appears to have been added to pre-existing pieces in 1945 just after WW II.

No pattern name added., but found on a Chateau plate and various Empress pieces.

Schumann Bavaria Germany US ZONE

The stamped in green Germany US ZONE appears to have been added to pre-existing pieces in 1945 just after WW II.

No pattern name added., but found on an Empress Coffee pot and other assorted Empress dinner set pieces.

 

Schumann Bavaria Germany US ZONE

The stamped in gold Germany US ZONE appears to have been added to pre-existing pieces in 1945 just after WW II.

No pattern name added., but found on assorted Empress dinner set pieces.

         
Red Crown Marks, Group II = Schumann Bavaria Germany...
   
1945-49 (1)(2) 1945-49 (1)(2) 1945-49 (2)    
Schumann Bavaria Germany US Zone

Printed mark all in same style

(Found on a Dresden Swags reticulated plate and Empress flat cups and saucers)

Schumann Bavaria Germany US Zone "CHATEAU"

"CHATEAU" in black appears to have been added at a later time.

We believe the pattern names were probably added for the American market.

 

Schumann Bavaria Germany U.S. Zone "CHATEAU"

Notice the word "CHATEAU" is printed upside down.  This is further evidence that the pattern name was added at a later time.

We believe the pattern names were probably added for the American market.

   
         
 
1945-49 (1)(2) 1945-49 (2)(83) c.1940's-50's? (2) c.1940-50's?(2)  
Schumann Bavaria Germany US Zone "EMPRESS"

"EMPRESS" stamped in black appears to have been added at a later time.

We believe the pattern names were probably added for the American market and possibly by the American importer E & R.

Schumann Bavaria Germany US Zone

"Heirloom"

Heirloom appears to have been added at a later time, possibly for the American market and possibly by the American importer E &R.

This mark came from a set  that also included pieces without the U. S. Zone mark and with the words "Schumann Germany."

Be sure to read Footnote 83 below.

Schumann Bavaria Germany "CHATEAU"

 Germany is worn. "CHATEAU" in black appears to have been added at a later time, probably after the war to pre-1945 inventory

We believe the pattern names were probably added for the American market.

Schumann Bavaria Germany "EMPRESS"

"EMPRESS" appears to have been added at a later time, probably after the war to pre-1945 inventory.

(Found on an Empress demipot)

We believe the pattern names were probably added for the American market.

 
         
Red Crown Marks, Group III = Schumann Germany...
c.Pre-1940's??(71) c.Pre-1945 (2) c.1940's-50 (97) c.1940's-50's (2) c.1940's-50' ( 2)
Schumann Germany

All words printed in same style.

Notice the difference in the style of the top of the crown.

We've also found it with the added pattern names (see next several columns) which we believe were added after the war for the benefit of the American market.

Schumann Germany

All words printed in same style.

Notice difference in style of crown from previous mark, as well as the next mark.

(Found on an Empress soup bowl with no pattern name added.)

We believe the pattern names were probably added for the American market after the war.

Schumann Germany

US ZONE

US ZONE appears to have been added at a later time, probably after the war to pre-1945 and even pre-war inventory.

Found on a bowl with older style reticulation, another clue as to pre-war dating.

Schumann Germany "CHATEAU"

"CHATEAU" appears to have been added at a later time, probably after the war to pre-1945 and even pre-war inventory.

We believe the pattern names were added by E & R for the American market after the war.   Be sure to also read Footnote 2C below.

Schumann Germany Chateau Dresden Flowers

Chateau Dresden Flowers appears to have been added at a later time, probably after the war to pre-1945 and even pre-war inventory.

We believe the pattern names were added by E & R for the American market after the war.   Be sure to also read Footnote 2C below.

         
c.1954-60 (2)(3) c.1940's-50's (2)(2C) c.1954-60 (2)(3) c.1940's-50's (2)(83) c.1954-60 (95)

Schumann Germany Chateau Dresden Flowers

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Chateau Dresden Flowers in a different style, probably added by E & R., possibly to pre-1945 inventory.

We believe the pattern names were added by E & R for the American market.   Be sure to also read Footnote 2C below.

Schumann Germany Empress Dresden Flowers

Empress Dresden Flowers appears to have been added at a later time, possibly to pre-1945 inventory.

Same comments as previous mark.

Found on an Empress set received as a wedding gift in 1957 in the U.S.  Be sure to read Footnote 2C below.

 

Schumann Germany Empress Dresden Flowers

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Empress Dresden Flowers in a different style, possibly to pre-1945 inventory.

We believe the E & R mark and the pattern names were added at the factory for the American market.   Be sure to also read Footnote 2C below

 

Schumann Germany Heirloom

Heirloom in a different style, possibly to pre-1945 inventory.

This mark came from a set  that also included pieces with the U. S. Zone mark and the words "Schumann Bavaria."

Be sure to read Footnote 83 below.

Schumann Germany Heirloom

Blue E & R Crown Mark

         
Red Crown Marks, Group IV = Schumann Arzberg Germany...
Schumann Mark from Sharon Lohnes Schumann Mark from Dimitry Group IV Continued below
c.1933-50's?? (25) c.1933-50's (22)(22A) (22B)(22C) c.1933-50's?? (2) c.1950?? (2)(32)  
Schumann Arzberg Germany

Notice the artistic flow of the words, especially the word Germany, making this yet another version of the red mark.

Schumann Arzberg Germany

We have heard from two different sources with information that this particular version goes back to at least the 1930's and  pre-war Germany, and from a third source that it may have still been in use into the 1950's.   See Footnotes 22, 22A, 22B, 22C below for details.

Schumann Arzberg Germany

Real Handcut Schumann China added in gold.

Schumann Arzberg Germany

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

CICO Made in Germany Bavaria

Green seal added later.  We know this is for CICO China.  We believe CICO was possibly a distributor/retailer.

 
         
Group IV Continued below
1954-60(2)(96) c.1950?? (2) c.1950's?? (2) c.1950's?? (2)  
Schumann Arzberg Germany Bridal Rose

Blue E & R Crown Mark and is from 1954 forward.

 Bridal Rose is a pattern name and probably added at the Schumann factory for E & R .

 

Schumann Arzberg Germany Dresden Garland

Dresden-Garland in gold is pattern name -- appears to have been added later, possibly after the war and around 1950.

See next Dresden-Garland mark in different color.

Schumann Arzberg Germany Dresden-Garland

Dresden-Garland in black is pattern name -- appears to have been added later, possibly after the war and around 1950.

See previous Dresden Garland mark in different color.

Schumann Arzberg Germany Lilac Time

Lilac Time is a pattern name -- appears to have been added later, possibly after the war and around 1950.

See more Lilac Time below.

This mark was contributed by Unique Antiques in Ulysses, Kansas.

 
         
Group IV Continued below
c.1954-60 (2)(3) c.1954-60 (2)(3)(49) c.1954-60 (2)(3) c.1954 or before (2)(3)(34)  

 Schumann Arzberg Germany Lilac Time

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

 Lilac Time is pattern name and  probably added at factory for E & R.

Schumann Arzberg Germany Melrose

Blue E & R Crown Mark

 Melrose is a pattern name and probably added at factory for E & R.

Schumann Arzberg Germany Moon Rose

Blue E & R Crown Mark

 Moon Rose is pattern name and probably added at factory for E & R.

Schumann Arzberg Germany Platinum Glow

Blue E & R Crown Mark

 Platinum Glow is pattern name and probably added at factory for E & R.

It is believed that this pattern ended around the mid-1950's.  When it began, we don't know.

 

         
   
c.1954-60 (72) c.1954-60 (2)(3) c. late 1940's-early 1950's(78)    

Schumann Arzberg Germany Sunset Rose

Blue E & R Crown Mark

 Sunset Rose is a pattern name and probably added at the Schumann factory for E & R .

Schumann Arzberg Germany Wild Rose

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

 Wild Rose is a pattern name and probably added for E & R  at the Schumann factory.

 

 

Schumann Arzberg Germany Wild Rose

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Green E&R seal applied and glazed over

Until I find documentation otherwise, I assume this mark is c. late 1940's-early 1950's, and possibly the interim mark used after the war and prior to putting the blue mark into use.

   
         
Red Crown Marks, Group V = Bavaria Schumann Arzberg...
Picture contributed by Elsa Poitras of Toronto Ontario Canada  
c.1950's (2)(60) c.1950's?? (2) c.1950's?? (2) c.1950's (101)  
Bavaria Schumann Arzberg

All words printed in same style.

Without the blue E & R mark, possibly made for European market, or entered U.S. by military or other private means.

(Found on a Dresden Line bowl. Also on a Moon Rose set purchased in 1959 through the military)

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Dresden Line

 Dresden Line is pattern or series name -- appears to have been added later.

Without the blue E & R mark, possibly made for European market, or entered U.S. by military or other private means.

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Meissen Rose

Meissen Rose is pattern name and  appears to have been added later.

Without the blue E & R mark, possibly made for European market, or entered U.S. by military or other private means.

Baviere Schumann Arzberg Vieux Meissen

This mark was found on a platter that is clearly the Empress Dresden pattern, but was targeted for the French market.

 Baviere is French for Bavaria.

Vieux is French for "Old".  Meissen is referring to the Dresden Flowers decoration.  Therefore, Vieux Meissen is the pattern name for the French market.

 
         

Red Crown Marks, Group VI = Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Germany...

     
c.1950's-?? (2)(29) c.1954-60 (3)      

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Germany

All words printed in same style.

Without the blue E & R mark, possibly made for European market, or entered U.S. by military or other private means.

(Found on a Wild Rose Blush set)

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Germany

Lilac Time

Blue E & R Crown Mark

All words printed in same style except for Lilac Time.   It appears as though it was probably added  for E & R at the factory.

     
         
Red Crown Marks, Group VII = Bavaria Schumann Arzberg W. Germany...  and Anniversary Marks
c.1954-60 (2D)(3) 1981 (56) 1981ff (56a) 1981 ff (54)(56) 1981 ff (54)(56)

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg W. Germany Chateau

Blue E & R Crown Mark

All words printed in same style and include W.Germany (see Footnote 2D below)

Bavaria Germany Schumann Arzberg Tradition seit 1881

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

This is apparently a 100 year anniversary mark from Schumann.  1881 is referring to the beginning date of the Schumann factory.  Be sure to read Footnote 56 below.

Bavaria Germany Schumann Arzberg Tradition seit 1881

Echt Cobalt

The blue version of the 100-year anniversary mark.

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Pierre-Joseph Redoute

Bavaria Germany Schumann Arzberg Tradition seit 1881

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Rosa Indica Cruenta

Found on a plate collection of  12 different Roses originally designed by Pierre-Joseph Redoute, an 18th century French painter.  The plates were manufactured by Schumann exclusively for Firkloveren, a Swedish distributor.  The green four-leaf clover in the mark above is for Firkloveren.

Bavaria Germany Schumann Arzberg Tradition seit 1881

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

John Iliffe

Found on a Christmas tea set manufactured by Schumann exclusively for Firkloveren, a Swedish distributor.  John Iliffe was the artist/design

         
 
c.1945-49 (1)(3A) c.1940's-50's c.1940's-50's c.1940's-50's (3A)  

Bavaria Schumann "Forget Me Not" Germany US Zone

Orlik

New York retailer's mark

All words printed in same style except cursive Orlik, which we now know to have been a shop on Madision Avenue in New York City as early as 1940.

This mark found on Chalet, but pattern name is not included.

Bavaria Schumann "Forget Me Not"

Buchanans Royal Doulton Store, Peterborough ONT

Canadian retailer's seal

This mark found on Chalet, the reticulated version of FMN, but pattern name is not included here.

Bavaria Schumann "Forget Me Not" Germany

Chalet

Chalet is pattern name of reticulated version of FMN and was applied here with a stamp.

Schumann Arzberg Forget Me Not Chalet Germany

All words printed in same style.

Chalet is pattern name of reticulated FMN

 
         
Picture contributed by Stephanie Medwedeff of Lewisville Texas    
c.1940's50's?? (3A) 1954-60's?? (3)(3A)(21) c.1960's-1970's (3A)(38)    
Bavaria Schumann Arzberg

Vergissmeinnicht, a German word for Forget-Me-Not

Found on a very different version of FMN which was probably made for the European market only.

Bavaria Schumann "Forget Me Not" Germany

Blue E & R Crown Mark

All words printed in same style.

Found on solid rim FMN

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Germany

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

"Forget Me Not" printed in different style

Found on solid rim FMN

   
         
Mark contributed by Suzanne Harris in Colorado Picture contributed by Kristen Picture courtesy of Ruth Hall of Elizabethtown, North Carolina
c.1950 (46) (2B) c.1950 (46A) c.1950 (82) c.1950 (65) c.1950's (47)
Schumann Bavaria 91

This gold version of the crown mark was found on a tea set known to be at least as old as 1955.  91 may be a pattern name.

We have also found this mark on a set of dishes known to have been brought to America from Germany after World War II.

Schumann Arzberg Bavaria

All words printed in same style.

Found on a teacup that appears to be in the style of 1950.

Schumann Germany

All words printed in same style.

Found on a teacups and plates that appear to be in the style of 1950.

Schumann Arzberg Germany

All words printed in same style.

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Same as mark at right but with added FOREIGN.  Found on a coffee set in the Netherlands. (102)

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Germany

Found on a teapot that is possibly the Golden Glow pattern, which was possibly a forerunner of the Golden Elegance pattern.  Golden Glow was possibly discontinued in the early 1950's -- thus, the basis for my dating of this mark.

 

         

c.1940's-50's (90) c.1940's (90) c.1930's (77) (2B) c.1930's-40's (68) c.1945-49 (92)
Schumann Bavaria 88

The 88 is possibly a pattern number.

Both of these marks found in the same set of dishes that were brought back from Germany in the late 1940's or early 1950's. 

Also found on a set known to have been purchased new in 1958 in Germany, but with Arzberg in the mark:

Bavaria Schumann 88W

The 88W is possibly a pattern number.

Both of these marks found in the same set of dishes that were brought back from Germany in the late 1940's or early 1950's.

SCHUMANN BAVARIA 25142

The number is probably a pattern number. 

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A similar gold mark as others in this section but with the added unknown mark that looks like an FN, possibly an exporter's mark.  Found on a set from the 1940's (93)

Bavaria Schumann

HANDPAINTED

Apparently a decorating mark for Schumann.

Bavaria Schumann

Germany US Zone

HANDPAINTED

Apparently a decorating mark for Schumann

         
Picture contributed by Joyce Noppers Picture Courtesy of Ivan Rasskazov of Torrance, California
c.1950 (89) c.1950 c.1960's c.1950's (61) c.1950 (18)
Schumann Arzberg Bavaria

This mark is exactly like the one just above that is known to be from a set purchased brand new in the late 1950's.

Schumann Arzberg Bavaria, 61, 2766E

The 2766E is probably a pattern number. 

Another example, but with 62:

Both marks found on items in the style of the 1950's. 

Schumann Arzberg Bavaria Original Bridal Rose, Copyright Regd No. 1672/60 c., Germany

Printed mark with pattern name and copyright notice inferring a beginning date of 1960 for this pattern.

Schumann Arzberg Germany

 Schumann Germany

All words printed in same unusual style.  Notice the fullness of the crown.  A whiteware mark for out-of-factory decoration.  Found on a hand painted plate.

         
Picture contributed by Joyce Zagurski in Nebraska Picture contributed by Lee Parmeter of Mississippi Picture courtesy of Jennifer Babb of Viginia Beach Virginia Picture contributed by Iris Stransky
c.1950's(18B) c.1950's-60's (66)  1954 or earlier (15) c.1950's c.1950's (79)

Schumann Germany F

A whiteware mark.  Same as previous mark except for color and the added F -- don't know significance of the F.  Found on a pair of hand painted and signed plates.

Also found on a set similar to the 1950's-60's Golden Elegance pattern and possibly a forerunner to that pattern.

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY F

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Another green whiteware mark with the unknown F but with different wording.  Found on a vase owned by a couple who were stationed in Germany in the late 1950's to early 1960's.

Same mark without the F found on a European Blue Trumpet plate. (100)

Schumann Arzberg Platinum Elegance Germany 20

All words printed in same style. 

This mark is unlike any of the others and is on a set of dishes that still has its 1954 E & R brochure.

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Germany

Black Schumann mark mingled with a JKW Bavaria mark.

A Schumann unknown Roses pattern distributed  by JKW under its own brand.

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Germany

Green Schumann mark under  House of Goebel Bavaria West Germany mark.

Goebel distributed  Schumann products,  Wild Rose Blush for example,  under its own brand name.

         
Picture contributed by OsmanCiloglu Picture Courtesy of C.D. in California USA
c.1950's (19) c.1950's Pre-1955 (50) c.1950's-60's (26) 1950's-60's (51)

BAVARIA Schumann Arzberg

All words printed in same style. 

Found on a pair of plates believed to be from the late 1940's or possibly 1950.(see Footnote 19 below).

Same mark with the added word FOREIGN found on plates received brand new in 1961.

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg

All words printed in same style.

(notice difference in design of top of crown from that one shown at left )

Found on a child's cup in the Jack and Jill pattern and given to a child in 1957

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

Incised numbers 1060/22

All words printed in same style.  Found on a dish that is in a version of either the Wild Rose or Briar Rose patterns.  The owner of the dish remembers seeing it as a child in the early 1950's on display in her grandmother's dining room.

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

All words printed in same style.  A whiteware mark found on several hand painted pieces which are signed and dated 1969 by an American china painter in Whittier, California.  Whiteware would have been manufactured earlier.

Also found on a hand painted plate signed and dated 1994 by a German artist (no picture), obviously old whiteware.

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

No pattern name

All words printed in same style.  Found on a plate in an unknown fruit pattern that is most likely from the 1960's.

         
Picture Courtesy of Thelma Huttner of Strongsville, Ohio, USA
c. 1950's-70's (3)(4) c.1950's-70's (27) c.1950's-70's (3)(4) c.1950's-70's (3)(4) c.1950's-70's (3)(4)
 BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

ANTIQUE ROSE

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with Antique Rose added in a different style, probably added  by E & R.

Same marks also found for Victorian Rose.

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

BRIAR ROSE

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with Briar Rose added in a different style, probably added by E & R.

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

EMPRESS Dresden Flowers

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with Empress Dresden Flowers added in a different style, probably added by E & R.

I think Empress ceased production in the mid 1980's, based on information I have from someone who ordered a set directly from the factory in Germany in the mid-1980's because they were no longer available in America by then (see E & R comments above and footnotes 3 and 4 below).

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

EMPRESS Dresden Flowers

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with Empress Dresden Flowers added in a different style, probably added by  E &R.

Rebecca Harris Emmitte of Weatherford, Texas, who has a set of Empress that came from her grandfather's jewelry store in Arlington, Texas, in the 1950's, sent us this green mark. The store closed in 1958, leaving no doubt of the 1950's dating of this green version of the Schumann crown mark.

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

EMPRESS Dresdner Flowers

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with Empress Dresdner Flowers added in a different style, probably added by  E &R.

Another one just like the above except with the added star under the green mark.

         
c.1950's-70 (3)(4) c.1950's-70 (81) c.1950's-70 c.1950's-70 c.1950's-70 (80)

 BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

FORGETMENOT

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with ForgetMeNot added in a different style, probably added  by E & R

I think the FMN pattern may have ceased around 1970.  It was, however, still on the retail market as late as 1980.

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

MOUNTAIN ROSE

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with Mountain Rose added in a different style, probably added  by E & R

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

VICTORIAN ROSE

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with Victorian Rose added in a different style, probably added  by E & R

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

VIOLETTE

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with Violette added in a different style, probably added  by E & R

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

White Elegance

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Printed mark with White Elegance added in a different style, probably added  by E & R

         
Picture contributed by Leslie Brown in Indiana Picture contributed by Carol S. in California
1960's (40) c.1970's(39) c.1970's(41) c. 1950 (48) c. 1950 (91)

BAVARIA REAL COLBALT

SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

COBALT ROSE

All word printed in same style in dark blue.

Found on dishes purchased brand new in early 1970's, but probably manufactured in the 1960's, based on the pattern name (see Footnote 40 below and also table of patterns).

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

ECHT COBALT INGLASUR

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Found on dishes believed to be a later style produced by Schumann (see Footnote 39 below and also table of  patterns).

BAVARIA SCHUMANN ARZBERG GERMANY

ECHT COBALT

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

Found on dishes believed to be older than the ones referenced in footnote 39.  Notice the slight difference in the blue portions of the mark  (see Footnote 41 below and also table of  patterns).

 I have found evidence this mark was used into the 1970's.

Schumann

Echt Schumann Cobalt

Schumann Porzellan Kunstabteilung 0231286

Kunstabteilung is German for art department.

 

Schumann

Echt Schumann Cobalt

Found on a set of what appears to be the Heirloom pattern, but with this mark.

         
    Schumann Mark from Linda Stoddard in Indiana
1980     c.1940's (58) c.1940's (94)
Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Germany

(notice the fuller top of the crown)

"Halleluja" by Marianne Stuwe, Second Edition of the Schumann Imperial Christmas Plate, Plate No. 1220 of an edition limited to 10,000

Weihnachten 1980 (on front of plate)

    Bavaria Schumann Arzberg China Blau

We assume that China Blau is a pattern name. 

Bavaria Schumann

Notice the different flair to the letters in this mark.  Found on a plate from a Dutch family whose family member remembers it back to the 1950's.

         
Picture Courtesy of Christine and Jim Battle of Putnam County New York Picture Courtesy of Barbara Steffens of Benton City Washington Picture courtesy of Colleen Kagele of Ritzville, Washington Picture Courtesy of Anonymous Contributor Picture courtesy of Brian Beach of Laguna Niguel, California
1941 (17)(17A)(17B) 1945-49 (14) 1945-49 (1)(9) 1945-49 (1)(9A) 1940's-50's (12)(12A)(12B)

  Bavaria Schumann

Printed mark in same style as next mark except without the word Germany.  Possibly a whiteware mark.  One source has confirmed this particular mark as going back to 1941 when her grandparents were married.

Same mark found on a set of dishes purchased directly from the factory in 1946 (see Footnote 17A below).  No U.S. Zone mark, so pre-1945.

 

 

 Bavaria Schumann Germany US Zone

The stamped Germany US Zone appears to be gold in color and to have been added to pre-existing pieces in 1945 just after WW II.  Notice that this mark is another variation of the old 1920's-30's blue mark.

 

Bavaria Schumann Germany US Zone

Printed mark all in same style.  Notice that this mark is green and is a whiteware mark.

I've also found this mark with an added CICO CHINA stamp in black which we believe to be a decorator's mark.  This is a different mark from the green CICO seal shown a few rows above with a red mark.

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 Bavaria Schumann Germany US Zone

Bouquet

Printed mark all in same style.  Same as previous mark, but with the addition of  the pattern name "Bouquet" added at a later time (see pattern table below).

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Mark at lower left is just like those above except with the added words

US Stanobre Design Oe Schu

I believe they mean something about a design for or by  Schumann. (103)

Bavaria Schumann Germany

Found in green and black.

 

 

         
Picture Contributed by Cape May Antiques in New Jersey Picture Courtesy of Mr. and Mrs. Murray of Ontario Canada
Pre-1954 (37) c.1960's (24) c.1960's (24) 1950's (84) 1950's (84)
Bavaria Schumann Germany

Blue E & R Crown Mark

Empire Rose

Printed mark with Empire Rose in different style.  Apparently added by E & R.  These dishes were possibly carried over from the 1940's.

Bavaria Schumann, Original Bridal Rose, Copyright Regd No. 1672/60 c., Germany

Printed mark with pattern name and copyright notice inferring a beginning date of 1960 for this pattern.

Original Bridal Rose, Copyright Regd No. 1672/60 c., Made in Western Germany, CN

Printed mark with pattern name and copyright notice inferring a beginning date of 1960 for this pattern.  Added Made in Western Germany blue seal and intertwined CN which we believe to be a decorator.

Schumann Porzellan-Craquele

Handpainted, Handmalerei

(Signature and numbers are unreadable)

(Be sure to read Footnote 84 below)

Schumann Porzellan-Craquele

Handpainted, Handmalerei

(Signature and numbers are unreadable)

(Be sure to read Footnote 84 below)

         
Picture contributed by Tim in Belgium Picture Courtesy of Ranier in Germany Picture Courtesy of Ranier in Germany
c.1950's or earlier?? (74) c.1980's-1990 (5)(7)(33) c.1990's (6)(7) c.1990's (57) c.1990's (16)
 Bavaria Schumann F 

Another mark with the unknown F

Found in Belgium on a plate  obviously made for the European market.

Seit 1881 Schumann Arzberg W-Germany

Printed mark which appears to be a newer mark used in the years just prior to the reunification of Germany in 1990.  The interpretation of Seit is "Since."  Possibly a whiteware mark.

  Seit 1881 Schumann Germany Die Meisterklasse

Printed mark apparently used in the last years of the Schumann factory.  The interpretation of Die Meisterklasse is "The Master Class."  Possibly a whiteware mark.

Seit 1881 Schumann 2Germany2

Printed mark apparently used in the last years of Schumann.  The interpretation of Seit is "Since."  I don't know the significance of the 2 and 2 before and after Germany.  Possibly a whiteware mark.

Seit 1881 Schumann 2Germany3

Printed mark apparently used in the last years of Schumann.  The interpretation of Seit is "Since."  I don't know the significance of the 2 and 3 before and after Germany.  Possibly a whiteware mark.

      Mark at left just like those above except the numbers are 3 and 0.  Still don't know significance of the number.
         
 
(1) The U. S. Zone mark was used 1945-49 when Germany was occupied by the United States just after World War II (page 234 of Kovel's).

(2) It is unclear when the red crown mark was actually put into use.  Even Rontgen in his book of marks, leaves the beginning date blank.   I now believe that versions of it definitely go back to the 1930's and  possibly used as early as 1918 with only the words Schumann Bavaria (refer back to my introductory comments above as well as my table of patterns below)Also refer Footnotes 2B, 2C, 11, 22, 29.  I also believe it probably ended around 1960.

(2A) This is the first evidence I have of the word Arzberg being a part of the old blue marks.  Thanks to Elsa Poitras of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, who contributed this mark.  I amthinking the beginning date of these particular marks based on information I've received and reported in Footnote 64 below.

(2B) Dresdner Art China and Schumann Bavaria were brand names used by the Schumann China Corporation in the 1930's in America for marketing wares from the Schumann factory (Source:  Page 280 of China and Glass in America 1880-1980 by Dallas Museum of Art).

(2C) This particular red crown mark is from a set of Schumann Empress purchased from someone whose parents received them as a wedding present in 1957 (family history).  We assume they were new at that time.  Although they do not have the blue importer's E & R mark which was used beginning in 1954, nor do they have a U. S. Zone mark (1945-49), they still could have been been imported to the U. S. through E & R.   They were most likely  manufactured and imported between 1950 and 1953 (after the U. S. Zone and before the E & R blue shield mark (a below) and remained in a store inventory until purchased in 1957.  A helpful clue is a 1951 E & R ad which introduced their NEW footed and flared Empress cup.  This 1957 wedding gift Empress set has these NEW footed and flared cups; therefore this set would be no older than 1950 and probably no newer than 1953.  Read (b) and (c) below for other possible options as to how this set may have entered the U. S.

In summary, ways Schumann dishes (and no doubt this particular set) entered the U.S. were:

(a) Through the importer Ebeling and Reuss.  We have some old E & R ads showing that E & R was importing  U. S. Zone Schumann into the U. S. as early as 1948.  We don't know what mark, if any, they were using at that time.  Any china marked U. S. Zone are dated to the years of 1945-49 when Bavaria Germany was occupied by  the U. S. military just after World War II; or

(b) Military personnel purchasing them in Germany and bringing/sending them back home after the war.  Through the Department of Commerce, a special division called U. S. Commercial Company (USCC) was created specifically for the purpose of exporting 50% of the porcelain production of Germany.  The U. S. was the primary consumer of that 50% (perhaps imported by E &R(a).  The remaining 50% of Germany's porcelain production was divided between the U. S. Military PX's (25%)** and the German citizens (25%) (Source:  "China and Glass in America, 1880-1980, From Tabletop to TV Tray" by the Dallas Museum of Art, page 231).  **The Military PX purchases would have bypassed the importer E & R.; or

(c) Individuals traveling to Germany on their own, especially during the 1950's, purchasing directly from the factory, and bringing them back home, thereby bypassing U. S. importers and retailers; or

(d) Europeans moving from Europe to the U. S. and bringing with them their family Schumann china, which would not have an importer's mark and most likely not a pattern name; we believe E & R, the importer , added the pattern names to their U.S. imports.

(e) Schumann China Corporation during the 1930's.  Prior to World War II, Schumann set up the Schumann China Corporation in New York City for the purpose of importing and distributing  Schumann products to the U. S.  According to page 280 of the DMA book, China and Glass in America, 1880-1980, From Tabletop to TV Tray, they sold under two brand names -- Dresdner Art China and Schumann Bavaria.  These German imports to the U.S. ceased, of course, with the beginning of World War II.

(2D) The wording with this red crown mark is different from the others because it says W. Germany, rather than just Germany, which dates it to no earlier than late 1949 when West Germany was established.  However, the blue E & R crown mark takes it to 1954.

(3) The blue E & R importer's mark was used beginning as early as 1954 (based on an old brochure).   I believe the pattern names that are in a different style than the other words in the marks were probably added by E & R when they added their blue mark.  Did E & R give them their pattern names???  Based on further study about E & R, (DMA book, page 289), E & R dropped many of its European lines in 1976 because of economic issues in Europe, as well as within E & R itself.   We are therefore adjusting our dates accordingly and assume any Schumann with this mark is 1976 or earlier, although actual distribution to the public might not have occurred until much later, as inferred in 3A below.

(3A) The Forget-Me-Not Chalet (reticulated version of FMN) appears to have ceased sometime between 1962 and 1965, based on some old E & R brochures.  The non-reticulated version of FMN still existed "new in shops" as late as 1980, based on information recently received (see footnote 38 below).  Also see footnote 21 for an interesting FMN story.

(4) It appears as though these particular black and green versions of the crown mark were used as early as the 1950's and into the 1960's and 1970's (information from original owners and family histories).  Unsure if they were used into the 1980's.

(5) West Germany existed from 1949 until 1990 at which time Germany was reunited.  This mark appears to be a newer mark used closer to the 1990 date, so I'm assuming this was their mark for the decade of the 1980's.

(6) This mark was apparently one used in the last years of the Schumann factory which closed in 1994.  This closing date has been verified by way of  Hans Christian Walter who communicated with a very helpful source in Arzberg, who in turn talked to the Archivist of the Arzberg City Hall. "Thank you Chris."

(7) Rainer Swiderski in Hamburg, Germany, has been a tremendous source of information and has graciously and generously contributed extensive photographs of his own Schumann collection, including the marks shown above for this footnote which we are using with his permission.   He also traveled to Arzberg and saw first-hand the closed Schumann factory and took extensive photographs which he has so graciously sent to us for our use in this project.  Click here to see the special page we have created for Rainer to display his photography of the Schumann factory and his personal Schumann collection.  "Thank you, Rainer."

(8) Shellie Tipton in Verona, Kentucky, has very graciously sent us pictures of one of her beautiful Schumann Garland plates and their marks and has granted us permission to use them in our tables of marks and patterns.  "Thank you, Shellie."

(9) Colleen Kagele in Ritzville, Washington, an ebay seller, has graciously granted us permission to use her picture of this mark.  Click here for the link to her ebay auctions.  "Thank you, Colleen."

(9A) Anonymous Contributor sent this mark which is just like Colleen's above, except for the pattern name "Bouquet."

(10) Kathy Vallee in Lowell, Indiana, has very graciously sent us pictures of her Moon Rose pattern and marks and has granted us permission to use them in our table of marks and patterns.  "Thank you, Kathy."

(11) Kenny Sugarman in Douglas, Arizona, submitted pictures an old portrait plate and its mark and granted us permission to use them in my table of marks and patterns.  The plate (see pattern table below) was handed down to him from his father; Kenny's father received the plate directly from an aunt and uncle who told him they were given the plate as a wedding gift; he believes with reasonable certainty that they were married around 1918 and is basing that on the age of their oldest child.  This plate has the red crown mark and is the first evidence we've found that a version of the red crown mark was possibly used that early.  "Thank you, Kenny, and please thank your father for this valuable information."

(11A) In support of Kenny's information above, Barb VanderRoest of Amherst Nova Scotia Canada, also has a beautiful portrait plate (shown below in our table of patterns) similar to Kenny's and with the same red crown mark with only the words "Schumann Bavaria."  It is the surviving plate of a pair that originally belonged to her grandmother in Nova Scotia.  Barb's mother, born in 1920, remembers the plates as a very young child.  She was told that she broke the second plate when she was a toddler.  Barb, thanks for being willing to share such interesting and helpful information!!

(12) Brian Beach in Laguna Niguel, California, submitted pictures of this mark and a rose pattern purchased by his mother in the 1950's, possibly from an antique shop and granted us permission to use them in our table of marks and patterns.  "Thank you, Brian."

(12A) Shelley Lawson (location unknown), shared with me information about her grandparents who were married in the 1930's.  They owned a set of Schumann china marked with the green version of the old shield mark.  She said she didn't know when they acquired the china,  but based on the mark it was most likely post-war 1940's-1950's. "Thanks, Shelley."

(12B) Stephen and Susan B. in Pittsford, New York, shared with us that Stephen's father shipped a set of Schumann with this mark to his wife in Logan, Ohio, in 1944 while he was serving in Germany in World War II.  This further confirms our dating of this mark to pre-1945.

(13) Dea Savitzky in Great Neck, New York, submitted pictures of these marks and her dishes (see pattern table below) that were given to her in 1946 as a wedding gift from a relative who served in World War II and bought the dishes new while in Germany after the war.  Though purchased in 1946, they were probably actually manufactured a few years earlier.  "Thank you, Dea, for sharing your story and allowing us to use your pictures.  Thanks also for researching and identifying the blue flower on your dishes."

(14) Barbara Steffens in Benton City, Washington, submitted pictures of this mark and her floral vase (see pattern table below) and granted us permission to use her pictures.  "Thank you, Barbara."

(15) Jennifer Babb in Virginia Beach, Virginia, submitted pictures of this mark and of her Platinum Elegance set she inherited from her parents.   Included with the set was an old E & R pamphlet dated 1954 which included the Platinum Elegance pattern.  She said her parents began purchasing this pattern in the 1950's.

(16) Anonymous Contributor who purchased a new set of dishes (see pattern table below) in 1994 with this mark.  Her information has helped to confirm that this was one of the last marks used by the Schumann factory before it closed in 1994.  The dishes would most likely have actually been manufactured prior to 1994 for them to have had time to make their way to the retail market.

(17) Christine and Jim Battle in Putnam County, New York, submitted this mark to us which is on a beautiful cake plate (see pattern table below) they found at a recent sale in their area.  "Thanks Chris and Jim."  

(17A) Gale Dulian in Wadsworth, Illinois, submitted pictures of this same mark on dishes her Dad  purchased directly from the factory in 1946 for his mother.   Although purchased new in 1946, they may have actually been manufactured much earlier and just not put on the market until after the war.

(17B)  Anonymous Contributor in Lemgo, Germany has provided family history that dates this particular mark back to 1941 when her grandparents were married.  See pattern table below for the coffee pot on which it is found; be sure to also read the related interesting family history.

(18)  Ivan Rasskazov in Torrance, California, submitted this mark which is on a hand painted plate he found at a sale.  It is a whiteware mark used on blanks for decoration by outside artists.  Scroll to the very end of this page for our table of "Hand Painted Wares on Schumann Blanks" and pictures of this beautiful plate.

(18B) Joyce Sagurski in Omaha, Nebraska, submitted this mark found on a pair of signed and hand painted plates she found at an estate sale in her area.  Scroll to the very end of this page for our table of "Hand Painted Wares on Schumann Blanks" and pictures of these beautiful plates.

(19)  Osman Ciloglu in Turkey submitted this mark which is on a set of portrait plates (see pattern table below) he inherited from his grandmother who received them as a wedding gift probably in the late 1940's.  We think it might be more likely around 1950 based on the mark.

(20)  Blanche Kevlin in Dallas, Texas, a good friend of ours, contributed pictures of two plates and their marks from her Schumann collection.  The marks are unusual, as are the shapes of the plates (see pattern table below).

(20A) Harran's "Collectible Cups and Saucers, Book III", page 352, dates this red mark to 1932.  I'm assuming that all versions of this particular style are also 1932 or at least 1930's and possibly through 1941, based on the Royal Dresdener Art marks dated to those years.

(21)  Madeleine in Virginia has a set of the Forget-Me-Not pattern and shared her family story with us.  Along with the set, she has an original receipt dated November 14, 1963, for six FMN dinner plates and six salad plates.   Madeleine's mother told her that her grandmother had won six complete settings of the FMN in a card game and then ordered the additional pieces as evidenced by the receipt and other paperwork from a china shop in Fairfax, Virginia.  The additional pieces were obviously purchased new and are still in perfect condition.   She said the dishes had been wrapped in newspaper since her grandmother passed away in 1967.  Original receipts are most unusual and a prime example of invaluable documentation.  Remember, everyone, keep those receipts for those who follow in your footsteps and document as much family history as possible "Madeleine, thanks for sharing your story and for faxing me copies of your receipt and other paperwork."

(22)  Dmitry Livshits in Brooklyn, New York, contributed pictures of a set of dishes with this particular red crown mark with only the words Schumann Arzberg Germany.  The dishes originally belonged to a lady who fled Nazi Germany in the 1930's and brought the dishes with her to the USA at that time.  Dimitry has the dishes which are still in their original packing and cases as they were when shipped and were marked as being "Dairy."  "Dmitry, thanks for such an interesting story."

(22A) We also heard from a lady who has some Schumann Wild Rose Blush pieces with the red crown mark and only the words Wild Rose and Schumann Arzberg Germany.  They were given to her in 1983 by a client who was then in her 80's and said they were from pre-war Germany and that she inherited them from her mother who was from Germany.  This helps to further verify the older age of the red crown mark

(22B)  G.L. of Kansas City, Missouri, has provided pictures and information that indicate that this same red crown mark with only the words Schumann Arzberg Germany was possibly still being used in 1959.  This particular mark is on a set of dishes purchased brand new by G.L.'s father when he was in the U. S. Army in the late 1950's and stationed in Amberg, Bavaria, Germany.  He made the purchase from the European Exchange (Military PX).  As for the time frame for this particular red mark, the other option is that these dishes were old inventory by the time they were purchased in 1959 (manufactured years earlier) and just not sold until 1959.

This link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amberg has some interesting information about Amberg and mentions that it was home to Pond Barracks, a United States Army Base.  See the table of patterns below for G.L.'s pictures.  Notice that the mark on these dishes does not include the blue E & R importer's mark since they were purchased directly in Germany by the consumer and shipped to the USA, thereby bypassing the importing company.

(22C) Yet more military documentation about this particular red crown mark is from Mary Hoffman in New York who has a set of Schumann Moon Rose that was purchased for her by her cousin who was in the U. S. Army and stationed in Germany in 1959.  Her set is a mixed set of red mark versions -- this version with only the words Schumann Arzberg Germany, as well as the version shown in Red Crown Marks, Group V above and discussed in Footnote 60 below.  The mixture of marks is further indication of older inventory having been carried forward from previous manufacturing years and mixed with newer inventory in order to make a complete set.  Also of interest is that although her set is clearly the Moon Rose pattern, the pattern name is not present, which is further evidence that the pattern names were added by the importer E & R.  Clearly E & R was not involved in bringing this set into the U.S. since it entered by way of the military.

(23)  Ignez in Key Biscayne, Florida, contributed this mark which is dated exactly between the years 1931-1941 (Source:  Rontgen's Marks on German, Bohemian, and Austrian Porcelain, pages 171 and 456) and was used by the Schumann China Corporation of New York City who was the U. S. distributor of Carl Schumann products between the years of 1931-1941.  "Thank you, Ignez."

(24) John and Pat Murray in Brockville, Ontario, Canada, contributed these two marks which are on a set of Bridal Rose dishes they purchased  from a fine china shop in Brockville in 1967 when they were married.  The red copyright notice in the mark indicates that the pattern was possibly copyrighted in 1960 "Thank you John and Pat for your generosity in sharing this information."

(25) S. L. in Baltimore, Maryland, contributed this mark which is on a vase with a Violet pattern.  The style of the word Germany makes this mark unique from the others.  See pattern table below for a picture of S. L.'s vase.

(26) C.D. in California contributed this whiteware mark found on hand painted china signed and dated 1969 by a lady in Whittier, California.   See examples of these beautiful pieces on our Q & A page.

(27) Thelma Huttner in Strongsville, Ohio, contributed this mark which is on a large set of Briar Rose Dishes that were found in her husband's aunt's attic.  They were found in beautiful and perfect condition.

(28) Carolyn Markie in Virginia contributed this mark which is on a set of beautiful figural paneled dishes in assorted colors of blue, pink, green, and yellow.  Carolyn purchased them from the estate of a lady who was born in 1900, was an only child, and possibly inherited them from her mother.   See pattern table below for pictures of these beautiful dishes.

(29) D. Kadar in Long Island, New York, contributed this mark found on a Wild Rose Blush compote she recently received as a gift.  It is yet another version of the red crown mark.

(30) Lynne Pasquale in Cascade, Montana, contributed these green marks found on a set of dishes that her grandmother passed on to her mother at the time of her mother's marriage in 1942 The dishes had belonged to her grandmother before that, and it is unknown when they were actually purchased.  This is some of  the oldest documentation we have of the green crown decorating mark.

(31) Mary Gavin in La Canada, California, contributed these marks from a beautiful set of Schumann Dresdner Art China "Betsy Ross" dishes.  See pattern table below for pictures of these beautiful dishes.

(32) CICO is for CICO China, a decorating studio. We've found another CICO mark paired with a green Schumann U. S. Zone mark,

(33)  Pat T. in Atlanta, Georgia, contributed a  mark exactly like this one  from a set of Schumann she purchased brand new in a shop in Rudesheim, West Germany, in the late 1980's.   Her information  is additional confirmation of the use of this mark in the 1980's.   W-Germany remained in existence until 1990 when Germany was reunited.

(34) J.R. in Atlanta, Georgia, contributed this mark from her set of Platinum Glow that she inherited from her mother-in-law.  Although her mother-in-law purchased them "new" in the late 1980's from a jewelry store in South Carolina, we believe they had been in stock in that store for quite sometime.  Based on family history we have from another contributor, it appears that this pattern ceased production somewhere in the mid-1950's (see pattern table below for more details).

(35)  C.S. in North Carolina, contributed this old  green mark.  It is found on some old luncheon plates decorated with the Dresden Flowers (see pattern table below).  It is dated as having been in use 1900-1927 (Source:  Keramik-Marken Lexikon 1885-1935 by Dieter Zuhlsdorff, page 273).   I, however, believe it could possibly be pre-1900.  Also, I'm not sure which Schumann the C is for.  Read on---

This mark is either (1) a very early mark for Carl (the factory was named for him in 1892); or (2) possibly for Christiana, the Mother, who ran the factory from 1884 to 1896; or (3) perhaps Christian Heinrich Schumann, the Father and founder of the factory in 1881;  or (4) possibly for Christopher who was Carl's brother and who founded a totally different and separate factory (1887-1991) from Carl's.   Read on-----

 I see this mark quite frequently identified as being that of  Christopher Schumann but misidentifying Christopher as being the father of Carl.  Christopher WAS NOT the father of Carl.  He was Carl's brother.  On the outside chance that the C in this mark is for Christopher, it could only be 1887-1891 when Christopher left the Schumann family factory and started his own factory, also in Arzberg, but which he sold in 1891 to Lehman, the founder of what eventually came to be Porcelain Factory Arberg.  It appears as though Christopher's factory may have been a forerunner of the Porcelain Factory Arzberg.  Christopher's factory and the Porcelain Factory Arzberg were totally separate from the Carl Schumann Porcelain Factory and should not be confused.

 (35A)  Stephen Pickover in New York, NY, also contributed pictures of this oldest green mark found on some pretty floral plates (see table of patterns below) that belonged to his great grandmother who came to the USA in the early 1900's, prior to WW I.

(36)  This particular old blue mark with the crown top is dated as having been put in use in 1924, but no ending date is given  (Source:  Keramik-Marken Lexikon, 1885-1935, by Dieter Zuhlsdorff, page 276).

(37)  Cape May Antiques in Swainton, New Jersey, granted us permission to use their pictures of this mark and their set of Empire Rose dishes (see pattern tables below).  Their website is www.capemayantiques.com.   They are also capemayantiques on ebay.

(38)  Mr. and Mrs. Atkins in South Carolina told us they purchased a brand new set of Forget-Me-Not from a high-end gift shop in Cape Cod, Massachusetts, in 1980.  This is the first information we have that the FMN pattern was still available brand new that late.  Purchased new in 1980 would mean actual manufacturing date for that particular set would have been at least back into the mid-1970's.

(39)  A. in Germany found some dishes  in a thrift shop in Germany where her husband is stationed in the U. S. Army.  They had this Schumann Echt Cobalt mark.  The style of the sugar bowl (see pattern table below) is a "newer" style used by Schumann, probably c.1970's.

(40)  L.B. in Indiana submitted pictures of the Cobalt Rose pattern and its mark (see table of patterns below).  An elderly friend of L.B. purchased a complete and brand new set of this pattern in the early 1970's from a high-end department store in Indiana called L. S. Ayers.  Notice that this mark is totally different in style than any of the others.  "Thanks to both of you for this submission."   Note:  Although new when purchased in the early 1970's, it is most likely they had been in the store's inventory for awhile.  Based on two old E & R brochures we have in our possession, the Cobalt Rose is in the 1961 brochure, but missing from the 1966 printing, indicating the pattern may have ceased production by 1966.

(41) Ray Potter in Houston, Texas, submitted pictures of his Echt Cobalt pattern and its mark (see table of patterns below).  He inherited an extensive set from his Mother.  The mark on his set is slightly different from the one referenced in Footnote 39 above.  Also, the style of the sugar bowl is the "older" style, so we have estimated Ray's dishes to probably be from the 1970's.

(42) Jennifer Gaumond in Pennsylvania, contributed this mark and the 1932 dated signature found on a sugar and creamer that was apparently decorated by an independent artist, possibly an American china painter.  This is the oldest documentation we have so far for this green whiteware mark.  Great documentation -- "Thanks, Jennifer!!"  We've added her pictures to our table of patterns below.

(43) Larry Sears in Bloomington, Illinois, contributed pictures of a beautiful old fruit plate (see table of patterns below in the "Fruit" section) with this red version of the oldest Schumann mark to come our way so far.  We assume it was used in the same time frame as the green one, c.1900-1927.  "Thanks, Larry."  (43A) Dianne Lavenburg in DeSoto, Kansas, also contributed pictures of this oldest red version found on some pretty floral plates (see table of patterns below).  "Thanks, Dianne."

(44)  Anonymous Contributor in Portland, Oregon, contributed pictures of a very early Schumann plate with this old green mark that includes the words "Dresden Flowers" (see pattern table below).

(45) Anonymous Contributor in St. Louis, Missouri, contributed pictures of a child's "Winnie-the-Pooh" bowl which I believe to be from the 1930's (see pattern table below).

(46)  A. in Virginia contributed pictures of this gold version of the crown mark found on a tea set belonging to an elderly lady who told her the set was at least 50 years old, which as of this writing would be 1955 or earlier.

(46A)  Suzanne Harris  in Glenwood Springs, Colorado, contributed pictures of this gold version of the crown mark found on a teacup she inherited from her grandmother (see pattern table below).

(47)  Ruth Hall in Elizabethtown, North Carolina, contributed pictures of this gold version of the crown mark found on a teapot that appears to be the Golden Glow pattern which was possibly a forerunner of the Golden Elegance pattern.  Based on other information, we believe the Golden Glow pattern was probably discontinued in the early 1950's.

(48)  Carol Sisson in Lompoc, California, contributed pictures of this brown version of the crown mark found on an Echt Cobalt tea set (see pattern table below) which she found at an estate sale in Santa Maria, California, in approximately 2002.  We believe this is probably c.1980's.

(49)  Cathy Cain in Harrington, Delaware, contributed pictures of this mark found on her bowl in the Melrose pattern (see pattern table below).

(50)  Linda Frey in Manchester, New Hampshire, contributed pictures of this mark found on her dish (see pattern table below) that originally belonged to her grandmother.   She remembers as a child seeing it on display in her grandmother's dining room in the early 1950's.

(51)  Mrs. Cassels in New Smyrna Beach, Florida, contributed pictures of this mark found on her plate (see pattern table below) in an unknown fruit pattern.

(52)  Cindy Hill in Oberlin, Ohio, contributed pictures of this mark found on her set of Wild Rose (see pattern table below).

(53)  Jeanet in Santa Rosa, California, contributed this old Schumann mark with the unusual additives of the hand written numbers and hand drawn Dresden mark.  We speculate the Dresden mark was possibly for a decorating studio in Dresden, Germany.  Please e-mail if you can help with interpreting these additives.

(54)  I.S. in Denmark, an avid collector of Schumann, sent me this valuable and interesting information about the Schumann factory outlet which she learned through her contacts in Europe.  Although the factory shut down in 1994, a Schumann factory outlet stayed open for approximately another 10 years in Arzberg for the purpose of selling off what was left of the Schumann inventory.  We are told that the outlet finally closed in 2004 or early 2005 -- a sad final note in the history of this great old porcelain factory "Thanks!!"  She also contributed pictures of her Schumann Christmas Tea Set and Schumann Roses plate collection, all of which she purchased in the 1980's (see pattern table below) from the Swedish firm, Firkloveren.  Schumann produced some exclusive product lines for Firkloveren.

(55)  RJT in Pennsylvania contributed this mark found on a Lilac Time plate belonging to his mother.  What makes it different from the other marks is the style of the pattern name.

(56)  We have in our possession an original box from Schumann which says 100 Jahre Schumann-Tradition.   Inside the box is a whiteware plate (as pictured on outside of box).  The plate has this mark, apparently an anniversary mark used in 1981, marking their 100 years in business.

(56a)  Cat in the UK contributed this blue version of the 100 year anniversary mark.

(57)  Iddan in Israel contributed this mark found on some cups and plates he received as a gift from the couple who previously lived where he lives now.  The mark is different from the other examples because of the number 2 on each side of the word Germany.  I don't know the significance of those numbers.

(58)  Linda Stoddard in Coatesville, Indiana, sent pictures of her China Blau coffee pot which she received from a friend whose mother brought it from Germany to America in the 1940's.

(59)  G. G. Foster in Claremont, California, has graciously shared with us her family history regarding the Schumann Empress set she inherited from her parents.  G.'s father purchased the set for her mother in 1948 upon the birth of G.'s older brother.  They are marked with the Schumann Red U. S. Zone mark used 1945-49.

(60) Mary Hoffman in New York has a set of Schumann Moon Rose that was purchased for her by her cousin who was in the U. S. Army and stationed in Germany in 1959.  Her set is a mixed set of red mark versions -- this version with only the words Bavaria Schumann Arzberg Germany, as well as the version shown in Red Crown Marks, Group IV above and discussed  in Footnote 22C above.  The mixture of marks is further indication of older inventory having been carried forward from previous manufacturing years and mixed with newer inventory in order to make a complete set.  Also of interest is that although her set is clearly the Moon Rose pattern, the pattern name is not present, which is further evidence that the pattern names were added by the importer E & R.  Clearly E & R was not involved in bringing this set into the U.S. since it entered by way of the military.

(61) Joyce Noppers in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, contributed this mark and pictures of her vanity jar which she purchased at an auction (see pattern table below).

(62)  Ted and Pam Coombes  in Ketchum, Oklahoma, contributed pictures of their great find at an antique mall in St. Louis, Missouri -- a berry bowl set (see pattern table below) with the old red and green CS marks and a handwritten inscription dated 1914.  We are always thrilled to find dated items -- such great documentation.

(63)  Deb and Ken in Gaithersburg, Maryland, contributed this mark found on a very beautiful cake set (see pattern table below) that originally belonged to Ken's grandmother.  This mark is slightly different in design from the others, is in black, and was paired with a green triangular mark that is probably that of a New York Importer of Bavarian products.

(63A) Carol Winters in Cary, North Carolina, sent pictures of this mark found on a Dresden Flowers bread basket originally owned by her mother who was married in 1928 and lived in New York City where she most likely acquired/received it.

(64)  Debbie Bell in Malua Bay, NSW South Coast of Australia, contributed pictures of a beautiful pair of plates (see pattern table below) received by her great grandmother in 1910 as a wedding gift.  The plates have this same mark which is shown in reference books as beginning in 1918.  We think the 1918 date may have been assumed since that was the year Bavaria received its independence from Germany after World War I.  Knowing that the world wars destroyed many factory records, 1918 is a logical assumption.  However, this information from Debbie sheds new light.  Her source is her still living mother who has vivid memories of her grandparents (Debbie's great grandparents) and is certain of the family history of ownership and the 1910 date and related wedding gifts.  These plates, as well as many other 1910 wedding gifts have been handed down from one mother to the next and now to Debbie.

(64A) In going through old e-mails I have filed away, I discovered another viewer who said she has a set of what came to be called Chateau Dresden that were given to her husband's grandparents for their wedding in 1901.  That set has this same older blue mark with Dresden above and Schumann Bavaria below.

(65) Kristen Clark contributed this mark found on a beautiful set of Schumann (see pattern table below) originally owned by her Grandmother.  Since Grandmother had several sets of German china, her son-in-law may have been the source.  Kristen believes he was in the military during (or perhaps just after) the war and possibly stationed in Germany.  This would fit a c.1950 date or earlier for the set.

(66) Lee Parmeter in Biloxi, Mississippi, contributed pictures of a vase (see pattern table below) he recently inherited from his sister.  She and her husband were stationed in Germany in the late 1950's and early 1960's.  Assuming they purchased the vase brand new at that time, this is excellent documentation of the dating of this mark.  Lee is a published author and we are adding this link to his books in appreciation for his contribution to our Schumann tables: Lee's Books

(67) NBJ in Chicago, Illinois, contributed pictures of what is apparently an advertising piece for Schumann with an added handwritten Ebeling and Reuss.  We think this is possibly from before the war and that Ebeling & Reuss added their name after the war when they became the exclusive U. S. importer for Schumann just after the war ended in 1945.  This piece is 10 1/2" diameter and appears to be in the form of a porcelain trivet.

(68)  Janine Smith in Randallstown, Maryland, sent pictures of her handpainted tea set (see pattern table below) with this gold mark.

(69) Augie Braun in Steeleville, Illinois, sent pictures of her beautiful gold plate decorated by Pickard China of Chicago.  Edgerton is one of the decorating marks they used 1928-38.  The undecorated plate (blank) was made by the Schumann factory in Germany.  This serves as evidence that this old blue Schumann mark was used as a whiteware mark.  For more information and a picture, see my Q&A link.

(70) Mary Price in Youngstown, Ohio, sent both of these pictures as examples of  this old blue crown mark. without any reference to Bavaria or Germany or any other additives.  Others we've heard from regarding the one with Schumann only have been Diane Fortune of Manchester, England; Graham Reynolds in Suffolk, England, and Sandra in Devon, England.  "Thanks to each of you."

(71) The Felsenthals in Memphis, Tennessee, contributed this mark found on a pair of plates (see pattern table below) Mr. Felsenthal received from his mother and grandmother.  We are speculating it is probably from the 1940's.

(72) Becky Fielder in Nashville, Tennessee, contributed this mark found a Sunset Rose vase (see pattern table below).

(73) D.S. of Columbia, South Carolina, contributed pictures of a pair of brooches her Dad brought back from Germany after World War II.  This is our first evidence that Schumann made porcelain jewelry.  See the beginning of the pattern table below for pictures of the brooches.

(74) Tim in Belgium contributed this mark found on a figural plate (see pattern table below) he found in an old abandoned farm.

(75) Joseph and Jackie Ann Watkins in Marietta, Georgia, contributed this mark found on a beautiful figural bowl (see pattern table below).  We believe that Eleanor was probably a decorating studio in Bavaria, Germany, in the 1920's-30's.

(76) Carla Furseth in Beaver Dam South/Central Wisconsin, purchased some Old Schumann Dresden at an estate auction in the Lake Geneva area of Southern Wisconsin.  Almost everything of any value at the auction had been purchased from Marshall Field & Company out of Chicago in the 1920's and 30's.  It was very clear where that family went for the finer things.  The Schumann Dresden was packed with brown felt dividers that were marked "China-Section - Marshall Field and Company."  The china had the old blue Schumann mark dated to that same era and included the words "Schumann Bavaria."   Click here for the interesting History of Marshall Field & Company.

(77) E.G. of Cary, Illinois, inherited a beautiful set of cranberry and gold  Schumann (see pattern table below) with this gold mark which includes a pattern number.

(78) Betty Siegfort in Central Florida contributed this mark from a beautiful Wild Rose charger plate she found on a Sunday afternoon shopping trip to a local Goodwill store.  The older E&R mark is similar to those used by E&R prior to World War II. but not the same.  Until we find documentation otherwise, we assume this mark is c. late 1940's-early 1950's, and possibly the interim mark used after the war and prior to putting the blue mark into use.

(79) Betty Siegfort in Central Florida also contributed this mark from another Wild Rose plate in her collection which has a green Schumann mark overstamped with a House of Goebel Bavaria West Germany mark.  Either Goebel was just distributing Schumann wares and overstamping with their own mark, or they were actually decorating Schumann whiteware and then overstamping.

(80) Lydia Schumann in Houston, Texas, contributed this mark from her White Elegance tea set she found in an antique shop in her area.  She is not related to the Schumann porcelain factory family.

(81) Kate Eckberg in Appleton, Wisconsin, contributed this mark found on her Mountain Rose vase.

(82) Dave Steiner in Long Lake, Minnesota, contributed this mark found on cups and plates in assorted colors and in the style of c.1950.

(83) Penny Seltzer of Redstone Arsenal, Alabama, sent these marks from a beautiful set of Heirloom she inherited  from her grandmother who bought it at an estate auction in 1970 in Pennsylvania.  It originally belonged to a doctor who most likely purchased it brand new in the late 40's or sometime in the 50's.  The set had pieces with the U. S. Zone mark and the words Schumann Bavaria, and some pieces with the words Schumann Germany but without the U. S. Zone mark.  They all had the Schumann red crown mark.  They all also had the added pattern name.

(84) LBU of Caddo Mills, Texas, sent these marks found on her Schumann Porzellan-Craquele vases that her mother found in an East Texas antique shop in the 1980's.  Though we originally thought these were older based on the older style of the mark, I've recently learned that the Schumann factory produced its Craquele line of vases in the 1950's, at the height of the factory's production.  The old blue mark was apparently carried forward as these red versions.

(85) Bruce Hoffman in Hollister, Missouri, contributed this U. S. Zone mark, 1945-49, which is the green version of the old blue mark.  This is apparently a whiteware mark and was found on a beautiful hand painted bowl which you can see in the last section of this page with the other hand painted wares.

(86) Bruce Hoffman in Hollister, Missouri, contributed this mark that includes this green circle that says Erphila which is presumably for Ebeling and Reuss and possibly one of its earliest marks, though not documented until now as far as we know since we haven't been able to find it in any of the many books we have.  It was found on an old Schumann creamer and sugar (see pattern table below) dated to c.1920's or even earlier and is the first confirmation we have that E & R (Erphila) was importing Schumann to the U. S. prior to World War II.

(87) Bruce Hoffman in Hollister, Missouri, contributed this mark from his extensive Schumann collection.  It includes what we assume is a decorating mark.  We don't know what the largeV is and have seen it used with other German marks -- E-mail if you know.

(88) Jude in Sedona, Arizona, sent this mark found on a small trinket plate that is decorated with military emblems.  It belonged to her uncle who was a U. S. Army soldier during World War II and fought in Germany, Normandy, and Belgium.  They were recognized by Charles, Prince of Belgium, Regent of the Kingdom, for two famous battles in Belgium and were awarded the Belgium Fourragere in November 1945.  Jude thinks this might have been part of that recognition.  It appears that the Schumann factory must have been commissioned to make these for each member of her uncle's regiment in honor of that occasion.  Click here for our Q&A of June 1, 2007, for pictures and more details about this interesting piece.

(89) Elly Centeno in Orlando, Florida, sent this mark found on a set of dishes she purchased in 1992 from a couple who said they received them as a wedding gift.  The date of their marriage is unclear.  Based on a study of the mark, I believe the dishes are most likely from the 1950's.  The couple lived all of their lives in New York on Long Island and then retired to Florida where Elly came to know them. 

(90) G. H, of Springfield, Missouri, sent pictures of a set of dishes that her uncle brought back from Germany in the late 1940's or early 1950's.  The pattern appears to be the Halo pattern (see pattern tables below).  The set has mixed marks, and we believe it to be from before the war.

(91) D.A. of Warrensville, North Carolina, sent pictures of his set of what appears to be in the Heirloom pattern, but with this Echt Cobalt mark.

(92) Andrea Grez of Charleston, West Virginia, sent pictures of a handpainted porcelain brooch with a gold version of the old blue mark.  It also includes Germany US Zone as part of the mark and written in the same style and color.  Since US Zone dates to 1945-49, we are now believing that probably most of  the gold versions of the various  Schumann marks are probably after World War II.

(93) NVB in Massachusetts sent pictures of her large set of Schumann that her aunt shipped back from Germany right after WW II.  She arrived in Germany in 1946 and worked at the U. S. military base in Weisbaden and sent the set home almost immediately.  We assume she purchased it brand new from the military base PX.  The mark is a version of the old blue mark, but is in gold and has an added FN mark which is unknown to us -- possibly a decorating mark. 

Yet another family, Maggie Kurtz of Winston-Salem North Carolina, tells a similar story about her faher having bought a complete set of what we have named "Gold Roses" while stationed in Heidelberg, Germany, 1947-49. 

We assume both of these sets were probably wartime or pre-war production.  They both have the same mark with the unidentified FN mark.

(94) Arthur and Carla Norton in Newtonmore, Scotland, sent pictures of a plate that has been in Carla's family as far back as she can remember, at least to the 1950's.   Carla and her family are Dutch and the plate was most likely made for the European market only and specifically for the Dutch and similar markets, since it is most definitely in that style.  The letters in this Schumann mark are slightly different from the others because of the flair of the letters.

(95) Carolyn Markie of Virginia contributed this mark from her Heirloom set.

(96) Joe Moore in St. Louis, Missouri, contributed pictures of this mark found on a Bridal Rose Vase that belonged to his grandparents.  Joe lived with her grandparents as a child in Oklahoma City, and the vase sat on his grandparents mantle for as far back as he can remember (Joe was born in 1953).  Joe's grandfather served in the U. S. Navy during both world wars.  The vase, however, is dated to the 1950's based on the 1954 E &R importers mark.

(97) Tony in Australia recently acquired a bowl with the older style reticulation, with this particular red mark, and with US ZONE added later with a stamp, inferring a manufacturing time of either during or before the war.

(98)  Sandra Davidson in London, England, sent pictures of this mark found on her fruit plates she received brand new in 1961.  This is the second Schumann mark I've seen with the added word FOREIGN.  The other one is an old blue mark from c.1920's which can be seen earlier in the tables.  The only thing I can conclude is that it infers the item(s) are made for the foreign market outside of Germany.

(99) Brian Robinson in Auckland, New Zealand, sent pictures of plates with this mark that  he purchased from an antique shop in the 1970's.   I am unsure of the age, but have come to believe the mark is most likely c.1940's-50's.

(100) Richard in Washington, D.C., sent pictures of his European Blue Trumpet plate inherited from his mother.  It is believed his uncle purchased the plate on a trip to Germany in the early 1960's.   The style of the plate and the Schumann mark support this belief.

(101) K. S. in Houston, Texas, submitted this mark that was targeted for the French market.  It is on a platter that is clearly what most of us know as the Empress Dresden pattern.  He recently purchased the platter in an ebay auction.

(102) J.C.H. in the Netherlands submitted this gold mark on a blue coffee set that originally belonged to her sister.  This posting is in honor and memory of her sister, LSD also of the Netherlands.

(103) P.S. in Grand Rapids, Michigan, sent this mark found on a German version of a Forget-Me-Not pattern.  P.S.'s mother received the set from her brother who served in Germany in World War II.

(104)  Leila Perlot contributed this floating red crown mark found on her Dresden Line plates.

(105) Christopher Marshall in Dortmund, Germany, has a very informative website about the history of various porcelain manufacturers in Germany as well as some of Germany's political history which is quite interesting.  You'll see when you visit his site that he has a section on Schumann, including many of our photos of Schumann marks which I was pleased to grant him permission to use on his site.   Click here for the link to his excellent website, Porcelain Marks and More

Schumann Patterns and Approximate Dates

This is a summary of approximate beginning and ending dates, as I can best determine for now, for a few of the Schumann patterns.  These are only my opinions.

My assumptions are based on popular reference books, old pamphlets in our possession, marks on Schumann pieces that I now have or have had, as well as information I have gathered from family histories of those with whom I have corresponded across the country through e-mail and in person.

For those patterns that have no pictures, it is because I do not have any pieces of those patterns to photograph.  I did find some of those patterns in the old E&R brochures from the 1960's and thought it important to include them in this table even without pictures (the brochures do have pictures, but we don't want to violate copyright laws since E & R is still in business).

 The old  CS Marks are first.  After that, I have grouped the patterns alphabetically by name, if known, or by category/description if unknown.  I hope this reorganization will make it easier to find what you are seeking.

  You will notice that there are many Unknown patterns.  In the early years, they apparently didn't name the patterns at all or just didn't apply the names to the pieces as part of the marks on the backsides.  Either way, they are unknown to me.  For many of them, I have assigned names or descriptive phrases and have used quotes to so indicate.

 I cannot guarantee the complete accuracy of this information and welcome any additional input. 

Please feel free to e-mail if you can helpFamily Histories are so very helpful.

"A special thanks to each of you who have already shared your family histories with me and have contributed pictures to help make this more complete."

 

Pattern Names/Categories Products Marks Estimated Time Frame of Existence Comments
(best estimate)
CS Marks
 Lion Marks and Patterns begin following this section.
 
Grouped by similarities first and alphabetically when possible

"Early Daisies"

c.1900 Crissy Duckett of Indio, California, purchased this bowl at an estate auction in Statesville, North Carolina.  She is hoping to find additional pieces to match.
 

 "Early Dresden Flowers"

Picture Courtesy of D. L. Biester, Reading, Pennsylvania

Notice the similarity in design to the later Chateau pattern.

Picture Courtesy of D. L. Biester, Reading, Pennsylvania

c.1900

 

L. Biester of Reading, Pennsylvania, found these at an estate sale in her area.  She is a shop owner on Ruby Lane, where she is offering these for purchase.
 "Early Dresden Flowers" Picture contributed by C.S. of North Carolina

Notice old style of reticulation

Picture contributed by C.S. of North Carolina 
Picture contributed by C.S. of North Carolina c.1900-1927   C. S. in North Carolina contributed these pictures and was the first person to send me an example of the old CS mark.

"Early Dresden Flowers"

Picture contributed by Stephen Pickover, New York, New York

Notice the old style of reticulation.

Picture contributed by Stephen Pickover, New York, New York c.1900-1927 Stephen Pickover in New York, NY, contributed pictures of some pretty floral plates that belonged to his great grandmother who came to the USA in the early 1900's, prior to WW I.  This is another example of the oldest green mark to come our way.
"Early Dresden Flowers" c.1900 Carole Eady of  Niagara on Lake Ontario, Canada, shared pictures of her old Dresden Flowers bowl with a red version of the CS mark.

"Early Dresden Flowers" 

 

Picture courtesy of anonymous contributor in Portland, Oregon, USA

Picture courtesy of anonymous contributor in Portland, Oregon

Notice added words "Dresden Flowers."

c.1900

  

This is another example of this old Schumann mark, but with the added words "Dresden Flowers."  An Anonymous Contributor in Portland, Oregon, made this contribution.  Thanks!! 
"Early Dresden Courting Couples"

 

 

c.1900-1927

Carl Sampsell of Selinsgrove, Pennsylvania, shared pictures of his set of Early Dresden cups with courting couples scenes on the inner rim of each cup.

"Fish/Fowl/Animal"

c.1900-1927 Richard Jones of Gainesville, Florida, recently purchased this beautiful old basket with a wildlife scene.   The mold is similar to the one for "Roses Pink" below.

Richard is retired and likes to buy and sell old art.  He has an antique booth in  Gainesville where he has this piece on display.

Fruit Same red mark as one shown below. c.1900 Picture of plate courtesy of Julie Raum in Rocky River, Ohio

Fruit

 

Picture courtesy of Larry Sears, Bloomington, Illinois

c.1900 Pictures courtesy of Larry Sears of Bloomington, Illinois

Picture contributed by Larry Sears of Bloomington, Illinois

"Fruit Garland"

Green CS Mark c.1900-1927 Pictures courtesy of Susan Storma of Orlando, Florida.  Her grandparents were married in New Jersey in 1919 or 1920, and received this dessert set as a wedding gift. 

"Orchids"

Sample

c.1900-1927 One of a pair of beautiful old Schumann plates with the old style reticulation. 
"Pink and Silver" Picture Contributed by Ted and Pam Coombes of Ketchum, Oklahoma, USA

Picture Contributed by Ted and Pam Coombes of Ketchum, Oklahoma, USA

Picture Contributed by Ted and Pam Coombes of Ketchum, Oklahoma c.1914 This old berry bowl set was found at a St. Louis, Missouri, antique mall in  by Ted and Pam Coombes of Ketchum, Oklahoma.  The set has both the old red and green CS marks.  Best of all is the handwritten and dated inscription from 1914.  Refer to comments below for more information about the CS marks.
"Rose Garland" c.1900-1927 Karen Dixson of Amherst, New York, received this bowl from her grandmother.
"Roses Pink"

 

Picture courtesy of J. D. Rainey in Minnesota USA

Old style of reticulation

Picture courtesy of J. D. Rainey of Minnesota USA c.1900-1927 This is another example of this old Schumann mark to come to us.  J. D. Rainey of Minnesota contributed these pictures.
"Roses Pink" c.1900-1927 Joan Johnston in Rondeau Ontario Canada shared pictures of her plate with the beautiful roses.  Notice they seem to match the ones in the frame just above.

"Roses Red "

c.1900-1927 Stan in Loveland, Colorado, contributed pictures of  his plate that belonged to his grandmother who was married in 1929 and may have received this as a wedding gift.
"Roses Red" c.1900-1927 Karen Dixson of Amherst, New York, received this plate from her grandmother.

"Roses Red"

c.1900-1927 Dina M. Ciriello of BelMar Farm, California, purchased this plate at an estate auction in Jefferson County, West, Virginia, and was kind enough to share her pictures.
"Roses Red" c.1900-1927 Another old CS plate with and unknown Roses pattern.

Pictures contributed by M. Wagler who inherited the plate.

"Roses Yellow" c.1900-1927 Karen K. of Alto, Michigan, inherited this 10" cake plate with inset handles from her grandmother who was of German descent, but was born in the USA.  Karen believes the plate may have originally been purchased in Germany by her great grandparents.

 "Roses"

 

c.1900-1927 J. Walls of Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada, received this pretty Schumann dish that originally belonged to her Stepmother's Mother.
       

 "Roses"

c.1900-1927 Bruce Hoffman in Hollister, Missouri, contributed these pictures from his extensive Schumann collection.
 "Roses"

Picture courtesy of Dianne Lavenburg, DeSoto, Kansas

Picture courtesy of Dianne Lavenburg, DeSoto, Kansas

Same as green mark above except red.

c.1900-1927 The green version of this mark is dated as having been in use 1900-1927.   I assume this red version is from the same era.  It is another example of the oldest Schumann mark to come my way and was contributed by Dianne Lavenburg in DeSoto, Kansas
"Sailboat" Green CS Bavaria Mark c.1900-1927 Picture courtesy of Allen who found this at a Goodwill store.

Strawflower

c.1900-1927 Pictures courtesy of Barbara Lynch in Victoria British Columbia Canada.  She purchased this basket from an antique shop in Victoria.
 
Unknown Design

c.1920 Pictures of fruit set courtesy of Sally-ann Pirt in Scotland U.K.
 

"Violets"

c.1900-1927 Paula Clark in Wisconsin contributed pictures of her hand painted sugar and creamer that were originally owned by her grandparents in Fremont, Ohio. 

Paula's grandfather, Dr. Noah Bates, was known for delivering babies in exchange for paintings, bushels of chickens, etc., which is how he most likely acquired these pieces.   Josh, the artist, used whiteware from the Schumann Porcelain Factory in Germany.   Whiteware can go undecorated for years before someone finally uses it.  With these pieces being undated, it is unknown when Josh actually painted these beautiful  African Violets.

         

"Early Wild Rose"

Appears to be a very early version of "Wild Rose" and possibly one of the original forerunner of the other Wild Rose versions shown below

c.1900-1927 Bruce Hoffman in Hollister, Missouri, contributed these pictures from his extensive Wild Rose collection.  A few of these have the lion marks, but I've included them here to keep the collection together.
 

     

Appears to be a very early version of "Wild Rose" and possibly one of the original forerunners of the later Wild Rose versions.

c.1900-1927 Bruce Hoffman in Hollister, Missouri, contributed these pictures from his extensive Wild Rose collection.
         

Another of what appears to be a very early version of "Wild Rose" and possibly a forerunner of the other Wild Rose versions shown below.

 Found on this old Schumann creamer and sugar set dated to c.1920's-30's or even earlier and is the first confirmation we have that E & R (Erphila) was apparently importing Schumann to the U. S. prior to World War II.  (See Footnote 86 above)

c.1920's or earlier Bruce Hoffman in Hollister, Missouri, contributed this mark that includes this green circle that says Erphila which is presumably for Ebeling and Reuss and possibly one of its earliest marks, though not documented until now as far as we know since we haven't been able to find it in any of the many books we have. 

Appears to be a very early reticulated version of "Wild Rose" and possibly a forerunner of what came to be called Rosedale in the 1950's.

c.1920's or earlier Bruce Hoffman in Hollister, Missouri, contributed these pictures from his extensive Wild Rose collection.
 

     
Yet another of what appears to be a very early version of "Wild Rose" and possibly a forerunner of the other Wild Rose versions shown below. c.1924-30 Bruce Hoffman in Hollister, Missouri, contributed these pictures from his extensive Wild Rose collection.

This particular old blue Schumann mark was used beginning c.1924.

Lion Marks and Patterns

Alphabetical by Pattern Name or Category

Along the way, you'll see small title bars alerting you to special categories.

         

Antique Rose

Scalloped Rim Edge, White Background, Smooth Top, Coupe Shape

1950's-1960's

Not in either 1961 or 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures. 

Though not pictured here, I recently found this pattern with the Schumann red mark from the 1950's.

         

Antique Rose

Picture courtesy of Liliane Huge in the Netherlands

Picture courtesy of Liliane Huge in the Netherlands

1960's

Liliane Huge of the Netherlands contributed these pictures of her set of dishes. 

They appear to be a flat-rim version of  Antique Rose

         

Antique Rose similar

(roses are similar to the Antique Rose above)

Pictures contributed by J. R. Desjean, Fitchburg, Massachusetts

c.1950's  

 J. R. Desjean of Fitchburg, Massachusetts, contributed these pictures of her set of Schumann.

         
"Art Deco" c.1930's Pictures contributed by T.H. in California.  Her grandparents, now in their 90's, were the original owners of this set of teacups which she believes may have been purchased in Chicago.  They traveled to Chicago quite frequently and other family members lived there.
         
"Art Deco"

1970's Maja and Martin in Sweden shared pictures of their two coffee pots from the 1970's.  
         
"Bavarian Village"

c.1960's-70's Sheli Gundzik in Denver, Colorado, received this set of china from her mother when they were stationed in Frankfort, Germany, in the early 1970's.  She is looking for some replacement pieces and has exhausted all the usual sources.  Please e-mail if you have any new leads.
         

Betsy Ross

See Figurals

     
         

"Blue and Gold"

See Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

     
         

"Blue Chintz"

c.1924 Another old and unknown Schumann pattern.  Pictures contributed by Claudia Rodenburg in The Netherlands.  The plates were originally owned by her husband's great-grandmother.
         

"Blue Dresden"

If anyone else has this pattern, please e-mail.  Pat is trying to replace a broken cup and saucer.

Picture courtesy of Pat T. in Atlanta Georgia USA

Notice later style of sugar bowl and leaning finial on both sugar bowl and coffee pot.

Same molds as Echt Cobalt and the later Empress
Picture Courtesy of Pat T. of Atlanta, Georgia, USA 1981-1990 Pat T. of Atlanta, Georgia, contributed these pictures of her beautiful china which she purchased brand new in the late 1980's in a shop in Rudesheim, West Germany. (see footnote 33 in table of marks above)
         
"Blue Dresden" Picture courtesy of B.L.C.H. of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada

Same mold as Chateau

Picture courtes of B.L.C.H., Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada

The U. S. Zone part of the mark dates to 1945-1949, the years when a portion of Germany as occupied by the U. S. just after World War II.

1945-1949  B.L.C.H. of Vancouver Island in British Columbia Canada, contributed these pictures of a plate that was part of her mother's estate. 

What years before and after 1945-1949 this pattern may have been produced, we don't know.

       
 "Blue Dresden"

Similar to Forget-Me-Not except different flowers and similar to Empress Dresden Flowers

Picture courtesy of Ann Shoffstall of Richardson, Texas c.1940's Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures.   Ann Shoffstall of Richardson, Texas, submitted these pictures and told us her parents purchased these in an antique shop in the French Quarter of New Orleans in the late 1940's or early 1950's.
         

"Blue Dresden"

"Old" Echt Cobalt

This set is evidence of this earlier 1950 dating of the Echt Cobalt product line.

This Echt Cobalt mark was added to an old lion mark.

Later Echt Cobalt  examples in the Echt Cobalt section below.

Pictures contributed by Madria Hepner of Washington, Pennsylvania.  This beautiful set was originally owned by her mother who purchased them directly from the Schumann factory  in 1950.  A military friend took her to the factory and introduced her to Mr. Schumann who told her that he had just sold 100 place settings of this pattern to a Maharaja.

         

"Blue Flowers"

 

1941

Not in either 1961 or 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.  An Anonymous Contributor in Lemgo, Germany, sent these pictures and shared their fascinating family history of this coffee pot.  (Also see Footnote 17B above.)

The grandfather of Anonymous purchased this coffee pot  in 1941 as a wedding gift for his new wife.  It was during WW II and things were difficult to buy, but he managed to buy this coffee pot, two cups, and two plates.  They used it for every breakfast and every dinner.  When they had to leave Stettin, Germany, in 1945 at the end of the war, they took with them only the necessities for survival.  However, the young wife didn't want to leave her first coffee pot behind and took it with her to their new home in East Germany.  In 1953, the couple had to again leave their home for political reasons and moved to West Germany.  Again, the coffee pot went with them and is now in the possession of their daughter and eventually their granddaughter who shared this story with us.  Grandmother decided that the pot should be passed down to each generation through the daughters as they marry.   Her wishes continue to be honored to this day.

         

"Blue Flowers"

1940's Ann in Helotes, Texas, shared her pictures and family story regarding this beautiful set purchased in the 1940's by her great uncle for her grandmother.
         
 "Blue Flowers"

 

c.1920's-30's I found these at an estate sale in Dallas back in the 1990's, ended up selling them on ebay and now wish I had kept them.
         

Blue Onion

1981-1990's Pictures contributed by Keith Sanders of Birmingham, United Kingdom.  His sister received this Blue Onion tray as a present a few years back from someone in Germany.

This Schumann mark is one of the last marks used by Schumann.  It was put into use in 1981 when they celebrated their 100 Year Anniversary of the factory.  "Seit 1881" means "Since 1881."   The factory was founded in 1881.

         

Bouquet

Picture Courtesy of Anonymous Contributor

Picture Courtesy of Anonymous Contributor 1945-49

Not in either 1961 or 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.  An anonymous contributor told me her husband inherited this set from his father who was in the Air Force in Germany 1950-1953.

There is evidence that the Bouquet pattern was still being produced as late as the 1990's by a decorating shop in Bavaria who used Schumann whiteware.  When the factory closed in 1994, the shop was concerned about losing its source for whiteware and reported they had to eventually shut down their website.   What Schumann marks were on that whiteware, I don't know.

Bouquet

1945-49 Here are pictures of a full set of Bouquet sent by J. M. in Florida.  He inherited the set from his grandmother who received them around 1946 or so from his grandfather who was a Master Sergeant in the military and stationed in Germany.

At the request of J. M., this posting is being made as a tribute to his grandmother, Beatrice Matter.  I am pleased to do that.

       
Bouquet 1945-49 Richard Jones of Gainesville, Florida, recently purchased this vase, which appears to be the Bouquet pattern.
Richard is retired and likes to buy and sell old art.  He has an antique booth in  Gainesville where he has this piece on display.
       

Bouquet similar

or "Royal White"

Same mold as Royal, but decorated like Bouquet

1945-49 Anonymous from Georgia sent pictures of their recently inherited U. S. Zone set.  It appears to be the same mold as the Royal pattern, but is decorated like the Bouquet pattern.  In the absence of anything else, I'm calling it a combination of the two.
         

Bouquet similar

or "Royal White"

Same mold as Royal, but decorated like Bouquet

 1945-1949 Pictures contributed by another Anonymous viewer who inherited a complete set from great grandmother.
       

Bouquet similar

c.1940's

 Denise Sils in Sunnyvale, California, bought this bowl at an antique store several years ago.

       

Bouquet similar

Picture Courtesy of Christine and Jim Battle of Putnam County New York USA

Picture Courtesy of Christine and Jim Battle of Putnam County New York USA

c.1940's

 Christine and Jim Battle of Putnam County, New York, submitted these pictures of a beautiful cake plate they found at a recent sale.

         

Bouquet similar

Picture Courtesy of Linda in Charleston South Carolina

Pictures of mark not available but it is a green U.S. Zone mark.

1945-49

 Linda of Charleston, South Carolina, contributed the picture of this soup bowl that was handed down to her by her grandmother who passed away in 1978 at the age of 92.

       

Bouquet similar

Though different flowers, this plate is similar in body style to the above bowl and is also from the same era.

 Stamped U.S. Zone mark obviously added to a pre-existing piece manufactured prior to end of  WW II.

1945-49

Joanne Sonia of Revere, Massachusetts, sent pictures of this beautiful plate she found recently at a local flea market.

         

Bouquet similar

1945-49 Joanne Sonia of Revere, Massachusetts, sent pictures of this beautiful plate she found recently at a local flea market.
       

Bouquet similar

c.1940's Carolyn McCauley in St. Louis, Missouri, sent pictures of miscellaneous Schumann brought home to America from Germany in 1946 by her father who served in World War II. 

He found random pieces here and there at "rummage sales" which serves to confirm the older dating.  He originally purchased these for his mother.  Carolyn and her husband received them a few years as a wedding gift -- a great family treasure passed to a new generation!!

       

Bouquet similar

 

Schumann Bavaria Plate

U.S. Zone mark

c. 1945-1949 Not in either 1961 or 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.

The circa dates are based on the U. S. Zone part of the mark, although this plate was most likely manufactured much earlier since the words Germany U. S. Zone were obviously added to a pre-existing piece.

       
Bouquet similar  

c.1940's Brenda Kiehner in Pennsylvania shared pictures of this beautiful set originally owned by her parents.  Her father sent it home to her mother when he was serving in Germany during World War II and just after.
       

Bouquet similar

FN may have been an exporter.  Both marks are in Gold and clearly applied by the Schumann factory since the gold on each is a match.  

c.1930's NVB in Massachusetts sent pictures of her large set of Schumann that her aunt shipped back from Germany right after WW II.   Her story is continued below.

She arrived in Germany in 1946 and worked at the U. S. military base in Weisbaden.   She sent the set home almost immediately.  It is  assumed she purchased it brand new from the military base PX.   Based on the mark, I think they may have been pre-war production.

       

Briar Rose

(Appears to be a later version of what was originally called Wild Rose)

Picture Courtesy of Thelma Huttner of Strongsville, Ohio, USA

Picture Courtesy of Thelma Huttner of Strongsville, Ohio, USA

c. 1950's-1966 plus

Found in both 1961 and 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures.

Thelma Huttner of Strongsville, Ohio, contributed these pictures.  She has a complete set of these dishes which were found in her husband's aunt's attic.

Jeri Aiello of Johnstown, Colorado, told me she has twelve place settings of  Briar Rose that she received back in 1957 when her mother worked for J. C. Penney's.  Mother paid $50 for the set of 12.   She bought a total of three sets  for all the sisters.

         

Bridal Chain

Picture contributed by DK in Michigan

Picture contributed by DK in Michigan

c.1930's

DK in Michigan contributed these pictures of her Bridal Chain set.

Be sure to read Footnote 2B above.

         

Bridal Rose

Karen also shared with us a picture of an event she recently hosted using her china.  A beautiful presentation!!

1954

The red Schumann mark on this vase, as well as the blue 1954 E &R importers mark. takes this pattern back to the mid-1950's. Joe Moore in St. Louis, Missouri, contributed pictures of his Bridal Rose Vase that belonged to his grandparents.  Joe lived with them as a child in Oklahoma City.  The vase sat on their mantle for as far back as he can remember (Joe was born in 1953).

1950's

The red Schumann mark on this plate is further documentation of this pattern going back to the 1950's.  Notice that it does not have the importer's mark.

Karen Brackman in Massachusetts has a complete set of this beautiful china.  It was a house warming gift in October 1960 for her Mother from a couple who lived in Boston.

         

Original Bridal Rose

Picture Courtesy of Mr. and Mrs. Murray in Ontario Canada

The red copyright notice infers a beginning date of 1960 for "Original Bridal Rose"

c.1960-1967

The Schumann mark to the immediate left is another version used for Bridal RoseIt was submitted by Jenny Klapp in Pickering, Ontario, Canada.

The blue seal may be an exporter's mark.

Not in either 1961 or 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.

John and Pat Murray of Brockville, Ontario, Canada, contributed the pictures at the far left and told us they purchased this set from a fine china shop in Brockville  in 1967 when they were married.

M. Grant of New Brunswick, Canada, inherited a set from her parents who purchased it in the 1960's.  It has the same marks as those at the far left.

Picture Courtesy of Mr. and Mrs. Murray in Ontariio Canada

Picture Courtesy of Mr. and Mrs. Murray of Ontario Canada

         

China Blau

Picture Courtesy of Linda Stoddard in Indiana

Picture courtesy of Linda Stoddard in Indiana

Bavaria Schumann Arzberg China Blau

c.1940's Not in either 1961 or 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.

Linda Stoddard in Indiana sent these pictures of her China Blau coffee pot.  Linda received the pot from a friend whose mother brought it to America from Germany in the 1940's.

         

"Blue" Unknown

1950's

J.C.H. in the Netherlands submitted pictures of this pretty blue coffee set that originally belonged to her sister. 

This posting is in honor and memory of her sister, LSD, also of the Netherlands.

         
"Blue Dutch" Unknown

The letters in this Schumann mark are slightly different from the others because of the flair of the letters.

c.1930's-50's Arthur and Carla Norton in Newtonmore, Scotland, sent pictures of a plate that has been in Carla's family as far back as she can remember, at least to the 1950's.   Carla and her family are Dutch, and the plate was most likely made for the European market only and specifically for the Dutch and similar markets, since it is most definitely in that style. 
         

Chateau forerunner similar except square

c.1930's Pictures contributed by

B. J. in Virginia

         

Early Chateau

Picture Courtesy of Ginny in Canada

Picture Courtesy of Ginny in Canada c. 1918 Possibly a forerunner and early version of what came to be called "Chateau Dresden Flowers."  These pictures were contributed by Ginny in Canada who inherited this compote from her mother, who likewise inherited it from her mother in the early 1930's.  It is unknown as to when Ginny's grandmother actually acquired it.

Unusual square design, Reticulated Rim

Picture Courtesy of Ginny in Canada

         

Early Chateau

1920's-30's

 

Pictures contributed by P.B. in Smithville, Oklahoma.

This plate was apparently made especially for hanging on the wall for decorative purposes only.  As can be seen in the picture, it had a built-in hangar on the back.

         

Early Chateau

"The McKnight Collection"

1920's-30's

Jim McKnight of Schuylerville, New York, (a recently retired Associated Press photographer), shared  his family history and pictures of his beautiful "Chateau" collection that originally belonged to his grandparents who were married in Memphis, Tennessee, in 1905.

 Jim's grandmother was the daughter of the Mayor of Memphis and received cut glass and china as wedding gifts.  Jim has wondered if these were wedding gifts to his grandparents, and I originally thought that might be possible.   Since that time, I have learned that these particular old blue lion marks are from the 1920's-30's.   Another viewer has told us that she has a set of "Chateau" that  her husband's grandparents received for their wedding in 1901.   Those are marked with a much older lion version.

         

Early Chateau

 

Old Schumann Chateau Dresden Flowers Bread and Butter

1920's-30's

This is apparently the forerunner of what came to be called Chateau.  Notice the abundance of floral decorations on the reticulated rim.  Old blue mark used beginning c.1924.

         

Chateau Dresden

Schumann Chateau Dresden Flowers Luncheon Plate

Assorted Marks including this one from 1945-49

c.1920's or earlier, though not yet named that early.   I don't know if it was actually named Chateau before or just after World War II.

c. early 1960's

This version with the heavily decorated rim is found in the 1961 Ebeling & Reuss brochure, but NOT in the 1966 brochure.  It appears that the Chateau pattern must have ceased sometime between 1961 and 1966.

         
  Children  
         
Children

Jack and Jill

1957 A Viewer sent these pictures of a cup and saucer her son received as a gift in 1957.

Another viewer sent the plate that appears to be a match.

         

Children

Jack and Jill

c.1920's Another Jack and Jill child's plate that belonged to the grandmother of Nikkie M. Majors in Rio Vista, California.  Grandmother was born September 25, 1926.  This was her baby dish.  She passed away on August 24, 1998.  This posting is in honor of her memory.
         

Children

Winnie-the-Pooh

Courtesy of an anonymous contributor from St. Louis, Missouri, USA

Picture courtesy of anonymous contributor in St. Louis, Missouri, USA

 A. A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh, Made in Germany, Richard G. Krueger, N.Y., Fully Protected U.S. Pat. Off., Stephen Slesinger Inc.

c.1920's This child's bowl is another example of the wide variety of  items produced by Schumann.

Pictures are courtesy of an Anonymous Contributor in St. Louis, Missouri, USA

         

Children

Winnie-the-Pooh, Divided Dish, Assorted Scenes.

Picture contributed by Amanda Ruffner in Maryland

Picture contributed by Amanda Ruffner in Maryland c.1920's Pictures contributed by Amanda Ruffner in Glen Burnie, Maryland.  Amanda and her husband found this in the far back of the attic of their recently purchased house.

Another Winnie-the-Pooh version with an assortment of scenes called Piglet's Dream, Pooh's Dream, and They Plan to Trap a Heffalum.  Schumann mark is exactly like the one for the bowl shown above.

         

Children

Winnie-the-Pooh

1931 Pictures contributed by P. C. in St. Louis, Missouri.  This child's dish is known to have been a 1931 gift to a family member.
         

Children

Child's Tea Set, Woodland Creatures

Picture Courtesy of Bobbie in Hamilton Georgia USA

Picture Courtesy of Bobbie in Hamilton Georgia USA

c.1940's-early 50's

Picture Courtesy of Bobbie in Hamilton Georgia USA

Bobbie in Hamilton, Georgia, contributed pictures of this child's tea set which she purchased several years ago for her granddaughter. Unfortunately, the teapot was missing.  Each piece is different, with hand painted woodland creatures.  This is the first child's tea set by Schumann that I've seen  and believe it to be from the 1940's-early 50's.

Picture Courtesy of Bobbie in Hamilton Georgia USA
 

End of Children

 
         

Chintz Style

see Coquette

also see Blue Chintz

   
         

Cobalt Rose

Similar to Unknown Echt Cobalt in the Echt Cobalt section below

Picture contributed by Leslie in Indiana

Picture contributed by Leslie in Indiana

c. early 1960's

Found in 1961 Ebeling & Reuss brochure, but missing from 1966 printing.

L.B. in Indiana contributed these pictures (be sure to read footnote 40 above)

         

Cobalt Rose similar

c. early 1960's Anne Groark in Valparaiso, Indiana, was born in Bavaria Germany, but as an infant moved with her parents to the U.S.  They visited her grandmother back in Germany on numerous occasions.  When Grandmother passed away, Anne came into possession of this beautiful vase.
         
Cobalt Rose similar

c.1960's-70's Donna Maine Smith of Hudson, Florida,  received this set from a neighbor, who in turn had received it from her German mother and grandmother.  The grandmother owned a nice restaurant in Germany, but this set was in her private collection and used only on special occasions.  Grandmother gave the set to her daughter (the neighbor's mother) when she moved  to the U.S. around 1973 or so.
         

"Columbine Flowers"

c. 1924 Another old and unknown Schumann pattern.  Pictures contributed by Jennifer Ralston in Bailey, Colorado.  These beautiful plates belonged to her grandmother.

Barbara Collins of Longmont, Colorado, has helped me to identify this flower as being the Columbine Flower which is the state flower of Colorado.

         

Coquette

no picture

no picture

1952-Pre-1961

Found in a 1952 E&R ad, but Not in either 1961 or 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.

         
 "Coquette"

Chintz Style similar

Picture contributed by Kathy Vesevick in Illinois

similar to plate below

Picture contributed by Kathy Vesevick in Illinois c.1920's Kathy Vesevick of Lombard, Illinois, inherited this vase from her mother and contributed these pictures.
         

 "Coquette"

Chintz Style similar

 

c.1920's  Pictures contributed by M.G.

         

 "Coquette"

Chintz Style similar

c.1924 Diane Fortune of Manchester, England, sent these pictures of a plate she was given a very long time ago.  It also has the particular old blue mark that is believed to have been used beginning in 1924
         

 "Coquette"

Chintz Style similar

1981-1990 Annette Leach in Essex, England, bought this beautiful plate brand new in Debenhams Department Store in Essex in the late 1980's or early 1990's.  She paid the equivalent of $76 U. S. dollars for it.

No pattern name is on it.

         

Craquele

These same red marks have also been found with U.S. Zone included which was for the years 1945-49.

1950's LBU of Caddo Mills, Texas, sent these pictures of her Schumann Craquele vases her mother found in an antique shop in East Texas in the 1980's.

The Schumann factory produced a Craquele line of vases in the 1950's, at the height of the factory's production.  The old blue mark was apparently carried forward as these red versions.

         
Craquele c.1920's J.M. was given this vase at the end of World War II while he was still in Germany.
         

"Daisies"

Picture courtesy of Barbara Steffens of Benton City, Washington

Picture courtesy of Barbara Steffens of Benton City, Washington

U.S. Zone stamp added to original mark

c.1945-1949although actual date of manufacture was  likely  earlier Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures.  Barbara Steffens of Benton City, Washington, submitted these pictures.

The circa dates are based on the U. S. Zone part of the mark.

         
Dauphine

c.1960's-70's

Vicki Simms of Melbourne, Florida, purchased this set from a jewelry store in Indiana in 1970.
         

"Dragon"

c.1960's-70's V.K. in Germany sent pictures of this teapot which her sister purchased in Germany in the 1970's.
         

Dresden

Early Unknown

Notice the old style of reticulation.

Old blue mark  believed to have been used beginning in 1924

1924 This plate was actually signed and dated 1924 on the back which was the first year this particular old blue mark is believed to have been used  (page 276, Keramik-Marken Lexicon, 1885-1935).

Dresden

Early Unknown

Picture Courtesy of Chuck Collins of Washington USA

Old style of reticulation

Picture Courtesy of Chuck Collins in Washington USA c. 1924 Chuck Collins, Ferndale, Washington, contributed these pictures of yet another version of an unknown Schumann pattern using the Dresden Flowers.
         

 

 Dresden

Early Unknown

Notice the old style of reticulation.

c. 1924 Unusual old reticulated and floral design.
         

 Dresden

Early Unknown

Picture courtesy of Shirley Smith in North Carolina

Picture Courtesy of Shirley Smith in North Carolina

c.1930's Shirley in Pineville, North Carolina, contributed pictures of this bowl that belonged to her grandmother or great grandmother and knows it goes back to before World War II.

Dresden

Early Unknown  

c.1920's Carol Winters of Cary, North Carolina, inherited this beautiful Dresden Flowers bread basket from her mother who was married in 1928 and lived in New York City where she would have received/acquired it.

The triangular mark is most likely that of a New York importer.

         

Dresden

Early Unknown

1920's-30's This beautiful old bread basket has the particular old blue mark that is believed to have been used beginning in 1924.

Dresden

Early Unknown

1920's-30's Pictures contributed by Ronna West of Victoria, British Columbia, Canada.

This plate seems to match our bowl shown above.

         

Dresden

Early Unknown

1930 Faith Myers of Mantua, Ohio, contributed these pictures of  this plate that   was a wedding gift to her mother in 1930.
         

Dresden

Early Unknown

c. 1930's Originally in my collection, but eventually sold.
         

Dresden

Unknown

c.1930's-1940's This gorgeous plate is owned by Vicki Wilkins in North Carolina.  The Germany US Zone mark, which dates to 1945-49, was added by stamp and therefore not part of the original mark.  It's possible this may be a pre-war plate that survived the war and then distributed post-war.  With its heavy and intricate gold work, it is the first of its kind that I've seen by Schumann.
         

Dresden Chateau

see Chateau

     

Dresden Empress

see Empress

     
         

  Dresden Garland similar

 

 c.1930's

Another example of the square plate shape.

Pictures contributed by J. S. of Dickson, Tennessee.

 Dresden Garland similar

1920's  Mrs. D. L. of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, sent these pictures of a plate that is one of 10 plates her mother received in 1928 as a wedding gift.
         
Dresden Garland similar 1924 Jeanne Owens, Cornerstone Antiques, Lexington, Kentucky, found this beautiful bowl at a local estate sale.  It appears to be an early version of the Dresden Garland pattern.  The star on the backside is, I believe, meant to support the center.  I've seen it on many bowls.  If anyone has information otherwise, please let me know.
         

"Dresden Garland" similar

c. 1930's My collection
         

 Dresden Garland similar

1945-49

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures. 

Pictures contributed by E.H., USA

         

 Dresden Garland similar

 

1940's or earlier

Patty of Dallas, Texas, sent pictures of this cup and saucer she found at a local antique show.

The U. S. Zone mark is 1945-49, but was obviously added after-the-fact.  Manufacturing time would have been earlier.

 

       

Dresden Garland

c. 1950

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures.

Pattern name was added later, probably after the war.

         
"Dresden Gold"

Unknown

c.1930's

Gerry and Karin Grossman of Turlock, California, shared pictures of their spectacular plates with the Dresden Flowers bouquets in the center and elaborate gold rims with pierced scalloped edges.  There is a number on the backside which is 17063/?.  The symbol after the slash is unreadable.  The numbers may represent the artist or possibly the pattern.
         

"Dresden Gold"

Unknown

c.1930's Jeff Nicholson in Dayton, Ohio, shared pictures of this beautiful plate, one of six owned by a church friend.
         

Early Dresden Line

c.1920's

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures. 

Similar to Chateau, except the rim is not as heavily decorated.

Read this interesting story below about this plate.

 "I am extremely interested in your Schumann research.  Dad was in the Air Force and stationed at Rhein-Mein Air Force Base in Frankfurt, Germany, in late 1947.   Mom was already expecting me and sailed by boat to Europe to join him in early 1948.  She was only 21, an only child, had never been outside the South, and was truly pampered.  After I was born, Dad was able to secure a very lovely three-story home which was much too big for just a wife and new baby.  There was a tremendous housing shortage at that time, and the German government paid anyone who would allow German citizens to live with them.  In turn, the citizens helped out in the household.  That worked out beautifully for my Mother who was completely out of her element.  As time went on, Dad decided to build a garage with additional housing over the garage.  Upon digging the foundation for the garage, a large crate of china was discovered.  Among the items in the crate was Schumann china, as well as some that looked like Schumann but with different markings.  Unfortunately, there is very little left of what was found in the crate.  We continued to be transferred for the next 18 years, including a second tour of duty in Bittburg, Germany (1955-1958).  Many pieces were damaged or lost in moves, but the biggest devastation happened when we were in Anchorage, Alaska, and the Big Earthquake hit on Good Friday, 1964.  I've had a very interesting life, and the family was always able to be with Dad wherever he was stationed.   I currently live in Atlanta, Georgia, my parents home before and after the service. A.A., Atlanta, Georgia, USA

         
Dresden Line

Floating Crown

c.1940's-50's Leila Perlot shared pictures of her Dresden Line plates and their marks. 

Plate One at the top has only the Floating Crown. which I believe to have been a Schumann decorating mark.

Plate Two has only the second mark.

         
Dresden Line Schumann Dresden Line Bread and Butter Plate

c.1940's-50's

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures. 

Similar to Chateau, except the rim is not as heavily decorated.

See next section below for further information.

         

Dresden Line

or Chateau?

Schumann Bavaria Chateau Dresden Flowers Dessert Plates

Mark says Chateau, which I believe to be a mistake in marking.  Whether a mistake or not, this is what has come to be called Dresden Line.

 

Notice W.Germany is part of this mark.

West Germany was established in 1949 and lasted until 1990 when Germany once again reunited.

1950's

The blue E & R mark was used beginning in 1954.

Notice that this is an exact match for the Dresden Line shown above. However, this mark says Chateau, which I believe to be a mistake in marking  

It is unlike the traditional Chateau in that it has less decoration on the rim.   The old 1961 E & R  brochure shows Chateau as the traditional version with more decoration on the rim, not less.

         

Dresden Line

Arzberg Tradition

100 Year Anniversary

Schumann Chateau Style Dresden Flowers Reticulated Plate

This is a 100 year anniversary mark for Schumann. 

c.1981

We have in our possession an original box from Schumann which says 100 Jahre Schumann-Tradition.  Inside the box is a whiteware plate (as pictured on outside of box).  That plate has this mark, obviously an anniversary mark used in 1981, marking their 100 years in business.

         

"Dresden Posies"

c.1900 F.L. in McAllen, Texas, received this beautiful bowl (bread basket) in the year 2000 from a 90-year-old lady who said it came from a set that originally belonged to her mother who was from Europe. 

She said the set was over 100 years old and  was brought from Europe on one of the first boats that came to New York's Ellis Island around   1900.  New York's Ellis Island reopened around 1900 after having been closed for a few years because of a fire.  She had approximately 30 pieces and gave them away to various ones, including F.L. 

         

 "Dresden Posies"

Picture contributed by Laurie in Birmingham, Alabama

Picture contributed by Laurie in Birmingham, Alabama

Picture contributed by Laurie in Birmingham, Alabama

c.1924 or earlier

These gorgeous plates are yet other examples of the very beautiful reticulated versions of the Dresden Flowers produced by Schumann. Laurie in Birmingham, Alabama, inherited these plates from her grandmother and graciously shared these pictures with us.

         
"Dresden Posies" c.1924 or earlier Dave Harness of Kirklin, Indiana, inherited this saucer from his mother (born 1936).  She had received it from her mother (born 1915) who likely received it from her mother.  Both Dave's mother and grandmother were lifelong residents of Northern Indiana.
         
 "Dresden Posies" 1930's Marilyn Wilcox received a set of this unknown pattern from her aunt who traveled around the world before World War II and brought home many different objects from many places. 
         

"Dresden Rose Cameo"

Picture contributed by Kay Melcher in California

Picture contributed by Key Melcher of California c.1950 or earlier Pictures contributed by Kay Melcher of Rancho Cucamonga, California.

This appears to be an excellent example of Schumann entering the U. S. by private means, thus bypassing E&R, the US importer.  See story below.

This seems to be a mixture of several other Schumann patterns.  The cameo loops are similar to Rheinland; the floral garland in the center is like Dresden Garland; the intertwined gold rope is like one I've named Dresden Swags; the design of the mold is like Empress.  The design of the mold suggests a 1940's-50's date, as does the interesting history of the original owner which is briefly summarized as follows:

This plate is one of a set originally owned by Aida who was born in Russia shortly before World War I.   Her mother was Russian and her father was Polish.  Her father was a high-ranking official in the Russian Army, but was killed when Aida was around 2 or 3.  Aida said that Russia was very dangerous at that time and her mother decided it was time for them to flee the country.  When Aida was around 4 or 5, her mother sewed all of the family jewels and money into the lining of her and her brother's coats.  In the middle of the night, they all boarded a ship to Japan where they arrived safely, lived for a time, and eventually boarded a ship to the U.S. and settled in San Francisco.  Aida finally ended up in Los Angeles where she lived for over fifty years.  She was very wealthy and did a great deal of traveling, including many trips back to Europe.  Aida's family believes she bought these plates on one of those European trips which most likely didn't start until after World War II; thus, the estimated date of 1940's-50's for the plates.  Although Aida was of age in the 1930's and  could have gone back to Europe prior to the start of  World War II, it is highly unlikely that she did since Europe was still a very dangerous place and she was already safe in the U. S.  After World War II and especially into the 1950's, many Americans did travel to Europe and bring back many treasures, including Schumann china from Germany.

         

"Dresden Rose Cameo"

1945-49

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures.

Doug and Anna Milstead of Cleveland, Ohio, saved this beautiful plate from a pile of discarded items at a flea market.  Good eyes and a  treasure of a find!!

Once again, this is a mixture of several patterns -- the highly decorated reticulated rim is like Dresden Chateau; the rose garland in the center is like Dresden Garland; the intertwined garland and gold rope is like what I am calling Dresden Swags; the little "rose cameo loops" are like the old Rheinland pattern.   Until we learn differently, we are calling this one and the one just above it "Dresden Rose Cameo."

         

 "Dresden Swags"

1945-49

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures. 

         

 "Dresden Swags"

Solid Rim

1945-49

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures. 

Beth King of Madison, Wisconsin, contributed these pictures from her beautiful 16-place set that she inherited from her great aunt who lived in Tyler, Texas.

         
"Dresden Swags"

 

Picture courtesy of Jean in Alabama c.1950 This appears to be the non-reticulated version of what we are calling "Dresden Swags."  Jean in Alabama contributed these  pictures of her ash trays.
Non-reticulated version of this pattern
         

 "Dresden Wreaths"

c.1924

One of the prettiest Schumann patterns -- a footed tea cake stand.  Old blue mark used beginning c.1924.

       

Dresdner Rose Goldvogel

c.1960's-70's Nadja Rosellen of Ketchum, Idaho, shared these pictures of her mother's coffee set which she purchased in Germany in the late 1960's or early 1970's.
There is a rose motif on the insides of the cups and on the rims of the plates.  Goldvogel translates to Gold Bird; thus, the pattern name,  Dresdner Rose Goldvogel, as seen stamped in gold on the back.
       
  Echt Cobalt  

Echt Cobalt

Picture courtesy of Carol Sisson of Lompoc, California  Picture courtesy of Carol Sisson of Lompoc, California c. 1950  Carol Sisson of Lompoc, California, contributed these  pictures of her tea set and its mark which she found at an estate sale in in Santa Maria, California, in approximately 2002. 

Kunstabteilung is German for art department. 

         

Echt Cobalt

c. 1950  Sherry Eilbes of Hesperus, Colorado,  received these ewers from her stepfather in the 1970's.  They are hand painted and signed.  Signatures are what appear to be Schussmourry and F. Wagner and W. Frank.  (pictures of signatures on the way)
         

 Echt Cobalt

"Blue Roses"

Similar to Cobalt Rose

Picture Courtesy of Ray Potter in Houston, Texas, USA

Picture Courtesy of Ray Potter, Houston, Texas, USA

Picture Courtesy of Ray Potter in Houston, Texas, USA 1970's Ray Potter in Houston, Texas, submitted pictures of his Echt Cobalt pattern and its mark (see Footnote 41 above).

 

         

 Echt Cobalt

"Blue Dresden"

Picture Courtesy of Diana Kindred, Nashville, Tennessee, USA

 The style of the leaning rosebud finial on the lid is the "newer" style.

Picture Courtesy of Diana Kindred, Nashville, Tennessee, USA c.1970's-80's for the body style

c.Pre-1961 for the flower pattern

Diana Kindred of Nashville, Tennessee, contributed these pictures of her coffee pot that she purchased in 1980 at a flea market in West Berlin Germany when she was there as an exchange student.  Though the body style of the coffee pot is "newer", the blue floral pattern matches dishes that her German grandmother brought with her when she came to the USA in 1961.
         

 Echt Cobalt

"Blue Dresden"

Picture Courtesy of Diana Kindred, Nashville, Tennessee, USA c.1979 This coffee service is owned by Valerie who received it brand new as an engagement gift in 1979 when she was living and working in Wiesbaden Germany.
         

 Echt Cobalt

Pictures courtesy of April in Germany

Notice later style of sugar bowl (leaning rosebud finial)

c.1970's-1980's A. of Germany found these dishes in a thrift shop in Germany where her husband is/was stationed in the U. S. Army.  I am dating these to c.1970's-80's based on the later style of the sugar bowl, as well as the overall style of the dishes.
         

 Echt Cobalt

c.1970's-1980's Susan Aarssen of Chathem, Ontario, Canada, found this beautiful Echt Cobalt set at a 1980's auction in Fort Myers, Florida.  Great photography by Susan.  "Thanks."
         

 Echt Cobalt

"Fish"

Picture Courtesy of L.R., Randall, Minnesota, USA

Picture Courtesy of L.R., Randall, Minnesota, USA

Picture Courtesy of L.R., Randall, Minnesota, USA c.1970's L. R. of Randall, Minnesota, contributed these pictures of yet another Echt Cobalt pattern.
         

Echt Cobalt,

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Limited Edition

World Famous Composers series.

Picture Courtesy of S. Coleman, California, USA Picture Courtesy of S. Coleman, California, USA c.1975 S. Coleman in California received this plate as a gift from a friend who parents were born in Germany.  They purchased it for her while on a visit to Germany in c.1975.  S learned it is a part of the World Famous Composers series.
         

Echt Cobalt

Imperial Christmas Plate Limited Edition

Mark in Cobalt Blue

1980 The 1980 date is on this plate.
       

More Echt Cobalt

See "Heirloom" See "Blue Dresden"    
       
  End of Echt Cobalt  
         

Emerald Rose??

Picture contributed by Paul Preuss, New York

Picture contributed by Paul Preuss in New York c.1950 - Pre-1961 Not in either 1961 or 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.

 Paul Preuss, Queensbury, New York, contributed these pictures of china he inherited from his mother.  The pattern appears to be Emerald Rose.

         

Empire Rose

Picture contributed by Cape May Antiques in New Jersey

Picture contributed by Cape May Antiques in New Jersey

c.1950's - Pre-1961

Not in either 1961 or 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.  Cape May Antiques, Swainton, New Jersey, granted us permission to use their pictures of this pattern and mark (see footnote 37 above)

         

 

Empress Forerunner

Square

 

Picture Courtesy of Blanche Kevlin of Dallas, Texas

A forerunner of what eventually evolved into Empress

Picture Courtesy of Blanche Kevlin of Dallas, Texas

c.1930's

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures.

B. K. in Texas contributed these pictures.

Notice unusual shape of plate.

 

Empress Forerunner

Square

A forerunner of what eventually evolved into Empress

c.1930's

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures.

B. K. in Texas contributed these pictures.

 

         

 

Empress Forerunner

Square

Picture Courtesy of Blanche Kevlin of Dallas, Texas

A forerunners of what eventually evolved into Empress

Picture Courtesy of Blanche Kevlin of Dallas, Texas

None Genuine Without

This Trade Mark

 c.1930's 

Not in either the 1961 or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures.

B. K. in Texas contributed these pictures.

Notice the unusual shape of the plate as well as the unusual added wording.

         

Empress Forerunner

c.1930's-40's Pictures contributed by

 Ron McMahon in Cookeville, Tennessee

A forerunner to what was eventually called Empress
         

Empress Forerunner

Picture contributed by Lynne Pasquale in Cascade Montana

Picture contributed by Lynne Pasquale in Cascade Montana

A forerunner to what was eventually called Empress

Pre-World War II

Lynne Pasquale of Cascade, Montana, contributed these pictures from her set of old Dresden Flowers dishes that her grandmother gave to her mother at the time of her mother's marriage in 1942.  Her grandmother owned the dishes prior to that time and it is unknown when they were actually purchased.

Another viewer has confirmed she has this same pattern that belonged to her grandmother and they are definitely pre-WW II.

 

Empress Forerunner

Pre-Empress

Old Schumann Dresden

Straight Edge Rim

This red mark  is the one on Sheila's 1938 set. 

Royal Bavarian Dresdner Art was apparently a product line.

The Old Schumann Dresden  (pre-Empress) has been found with assorted old marks, including this one.

Sheila's family history confirms the dating of this mark to the

1930's

The only difference between  OLD Dresden and the EMPRESS Dresden is the shape of the rim edges.

The old is straight edge.

The Empress is scalloped.

Sheila Linton of New York City, shared with us her family history regarding her beautiful set of Schumann Dresden (straight edge) purchased brand new by her parents in 1938, and an Empress teapot purchased brand new in 1948 by Sheila and her brother for their mother.  Click here for Sheila's beautiful essay and pictures of her Schumann

Yet more documentation of the dating of this particular red mark to the 1930's came from Patricia Lawver of Hanover, Pennsylvania.  This teapot originally belonged to Pat's grandmother who received it from her daughter (Pat's aunt).  The daughter brought it back from a trip to Europe in the early to mid-1930's and gave it to her mother.  Mother passed away in 1939, and the teapot went back to the daughter who gave it to her.  The daughter (Pat's aunt) entertained at tea and used the teapot frequently over the years.  She passed away in 2001 at the age of 103and teapot went to Pat.  Pat continues to use it to this day by hosting Saturday teas and carrying on the family tradition begun by her grandmother and aunt.

         

Empress Forerunner

Pre-Empress

Old Schumann Dresden

Straight Edge Rims

1928-30's M.M. in Palm Desert, California, received this set with mixed marks from her mother-in-law in 1960, who in turn received them from her mother.   It is believed by the family the set was purchased from Marshall Field's in Chicago.
         

Empress Forerunner

Pre-Empress

Old Schumann Dresden

1928-30's K.H. in Florida inherited these beautiful wedding dishes from her mother who was married in 1932 in New England.
         

Empress Forerunner

Pre-Empress

Old Schumann Dresden

1920's-30's

Martin Markovitz in New York inherited this beautiful set of Old Schumann Dresden that originally belonged to his great aunt.  She had them for as far back as he can remember.  It is a mixed set of the Old Schumann Dresden and the later Empress, as well as the old Garland pattern.

    He would like to sell the set.  Click here for more information posted on 11/12/13.

Assorted marks in the set

         

Empress Forerunner

Pre-Empress

Old Schumann Dresden

c.1924-30's S.S. in Illinois inherited this beautiful set that is believed to have originally been owned by her great grandmother who was married to a department store buyer.  There was another set of a different pattern known to have existed in the family.  It is speculated that he may have made the purchases during one of his buying trips, possibly to New York or Chicago.
         

Empress Early

Early Empress

Old Schumann Dresden Flowers

Scalloped Edge Rim Upward Curve

c.1924-30's

The difference in this version of the Old Dresden from what came to be known as Empress is the upward curve of the rim.  Otherwise, it is the same, including the scalloped edge rim.

This actually qualifies to be called Old  Empress or Early Empress

         

Empress Dresden

Scalloped Edge Rim

Scalloped Edge Rim

An old E&R ad dated 1951  states "... still the "Empress" in dinnerware patterns and truly  Schumann's masterpiece."

Assorted marks including this one above dated 1945-1949 and the one below known to be from the 1950's.

Pre-1945-1980's

Found in both 1961 and 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.  Known to have existed as late as the early 1980's.

The last mark at the left (green) was sent to us by Rebecca Harris Emmitte of Weatherford, Texas, who has a set of Empress that came from her grandfather's jewelry store in Arlington, Texas, in the 1950's.  The store closed in 1958, leaving no doubt of  the 1950's dating of this green version of the Schumann crown mark.

An old E&R ad dated 1949 describes Empress as being "Carl Schumann's famous old-world Dresden decoration -- never changed since it was first introduced generation ago.  We believe this to be our finest pattern."

Clearly, such comments referring to Empress as their "finest pattern" and "Schumann's masterpiece" could only be made about a pattern that had already been around long enough by the late 1940's to have earned that reputation. 

When it actually came to be called Empress is unknown.

         

Empress Dresden

Scalloped Edge Rim

1950's Jack Chicone of Phoenix, Arizona, owns this beautiful set of Empress Dresden purchased by his father while on a business trip in Germany in 1960.  
 

Fortunately, Jack also has the original sales receipt dated February 7, 1960.   The purchase was made from what appears to be a retail shop, Elisabeth Tolle in Wiesbaden, who specialized in glass and porcelain.   It is interesting that she/they inaccurately described the set as Chateau, which is the reticulated (pierced rims) version of Empress and a separate pattern.  That makes me believe more than ever that the pattern names were more for the American market and were not that familiar to the European market, at least at that time.

         
 Empress Dresden compatible  

1950's

CMS of South Elgin, Illinois, inherited this beautiful urn from her grandmother who was originally from Germany and acquired it on one of her post-WW II visits back home.  She only visited three times between the years 1928 and 1989.  It is believed that she purchased this urn on her 1957 trip.
         
"European Blue Trumpet Gentian Wild Flowers" Picture courtesy of Dea Savitzky of Great Neck, New York Picture courtesy of Dea Savitzky of Great Neck, New York Pre-1946

(actual date of manufacture would be pre-1946 and possibly pre-war)

Not in either the 1961or 1966 Ebeling and Reuss brochures.
Dea Savitzky of Great Neck, New York, who submitted these pictures, received a complete set of these hand painted dishes as a wedding gift in 1946 from a relative who served in World War II and purchased the dishes new while in Germany after the war.
         
"European Blue Trumpet Gentian Wild Flowers"

1940's P.T. in Texas shared pictures of this beautiful demipot set that her father-in-law sent to his mother during the time he was stationed in Germany during World War II and just after.
         
"European Blue Trumpet Gentian Wild Flowers" 1950's-1960's Richard in Washington, D.C. contributed pictures of this European Blue Trumpet plate inherited from his mother.  It is believed his uncle purchased it on a trip to Germany in the early 1960's.   The style of the plate and the Schumann mark support this belief.
         
 "European Purple Trumpet Gentian Wild Flowers" c.1940's-50's Arjen and Annette de Kleine in Holland have a complete set of this beautiful pattern which came down to them through their family.

The set was probably made especially for the European market.

         
 

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

 

 Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Green and Gold

Roses

Courtesy of B.A. in Berryton, Kansas

Notice the old style of reticulation.

Picture Courtesy of B.A. of Berryton, Kansas

Bavaria Schumann

c. 1918 or earlier B.A. of Berryton, Kansas, sent these pictures of her beautiful bowl which she found among miscellaneous glassware that she and other family members inherited from their mother.  B.A. actually rescued it from being sold in a family garage sale.
         

 Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Blue and Gold

Pattern #16764/F

Picture Courtesy of Maria and Lou in Houston Texas

Picture Courtesy of Maria and Lou in Houston Texas

Appears to have a pattern number.

c. 1930's Maria and Lou in Houston, Texas, who submitted these pictures  have a set of 12 of these beautiful plates which are just over 11" diameter.  They purchased them from an antique dealer in Houston in the early 1990's.
 

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Blue and Gold

c. 1930's David Trudnak in Delaware recently purchased this beautiful plate at an auction and graciously shared it with me by way of these pictures.
 

 Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Blue and Gold

Picture courtesy of Bernt Johanson in Sweden

Picture courtesy of Bernt Johanson in Sweden

Picture courtesy of Bernt Johanson in Sweden c. 1920's Bernt Johanson of Sweden contributed pictures of his coffee set that has been in his family at least 50 or 60 years that he knows.
       

 Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Green Lustre

Picture courtesy of Jennifer Gaumond, Pennsylvania, USA 

Picture courtesyof Jennifer Gaumond, Pennsylvania USA

Green whiteware mark

Hand Painted, Artist signed, Dated 1932

1932 Hand painted Lustreware. Artist signed and dated 1932.  Probably an American china painter.  Pictures contributed by Jennifer Gaumond of Pennsylvania.
         

 Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Gold Pearl Lustre

c.1925 Hand painted Gold Pearl Lustreware.  Artist signed M. Falsey Hoppel and dated 1925.  Probably an American china painter.  Pictures contributed by Lori Page in Illinois who found them at an estate sale.
         

 Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

"Blue Lustre"

Picture contributed by Kathy C. in Georgia

c.1920's-30's Kathy C. of Georgia inherited this blue Lustreware bowl from her mother-in-law.  Though not decorated with the Dresden Flowers, it was marked with the Dresden version of the Schumann mark.
         

 Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

 Maroon and Gold

Pattern #25142

c.1930's E.G. of Cary, Illinois, inherited this beautiful set from his mother.  The gold mark is similar to the next set below, but with a different arrangement of the words and with the added number which I believe to be a pattern number
 

 Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

 Green and Gold

c.1950

 Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

 Green and Gold

Gold Mark

c.1950 Janice Taufana in Sydney, Australia, purchased this beautiful set at an antique fair while on holiday in Nice, France.

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Gold Florals

Black, Gold, Pink

Gold Mark

c.1930's-40's Janine Smith in Randallstown, Maryland, sent these pictures of her hand painted tea set with this gold mark.

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

 White Florals

Gold Mark

c.1950 Dave Steiner in Long Lake, Minnesota, contributed pictures of his Schumann snack sets in assorted colors.

         

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Red and White

c.1930's

Esperanza Bergsma in The Netherlands received this lidded bowl from her mother-in-law who in turn had received it from her grandmother.

         

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Red and White

Picture contributed by Joyce Noppers of Philadelphia

Picture contributed by Joyce Noppers of Philadelphia

c.1950

Pictures contributed by Joyce Noppers of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.  This is one of a pair of vanity jars Joyce purchased at an auction.

         

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Black and Gold

Picture courtesy of Melissa in Danville Pennsylvania

Picture courtesy of Melissa in Danville Pennsylvania c.1950 Melissa of Danville, Pennsylvania, contributed pictures of this vanity jar which she remembers being used for candy during her childhood in the early 1960's. Melissa and her older sister believe it was probably a gift from an Austrian lady who visited their family in the 1950's. 
         

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Black and Pink

Picture Contributed by Suzanne Harris in Colorado

Picture contributed by Suzanne Harris in Colorado

 Picture contributed by Suzanne Harris in Colorado c.1950 Pictures contributed by Suzanne Harris of Glenwood Springs, Colorado.  Suzanne inherited this teacup from her grandmother.
         

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Gray and Gold

Picture contributed by Kristen

  c.1950 Kristen Clark contributed pictures from a beautiful set originally owned by her Grandmother.

Since Grandmother had several sets of German china, her son-in-law may have been the source for them.  Kristen believes he was in the military during (or perhaps just after) the war and possibly stationed in Germany.  This would fit a c.1950 date or earlier for the set.

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

White and Gold

c.1940's Heidi Zajac of Niles, Illinois, sent pictures of this candy bowl that originally belonged to a German lady who said this was a gift to her father when she was a child.  They lived in Bavaria, Germany, and the gift came from a family of wealth.
         

Fancy Golds and Solid Colors

Yellow and Gold

 

c.1930's Pictures contributed by Kelly Grimsly, USA
         
 

Figurals

 

Figurals

Silhouette Minuet Dancers

 

Bavaria Schumann

c.1910 M.M. in Montreal, Canada, inherited this plate that originally belonged to an aunt who lived 1875-1959 It is believed that she received this plate as a wedding gift in 1910.

Figurals

Courting Couples

1920's Sonja Chasteen of Springfield, Missouri, shared pictures of her dessert set with an interesting past.  Sonja's German mother was walking one day in or near her Bavarian hometown, probably mid-late 1940's, and saw a woman disposing of some household items.  Mom saw the plates and asked if she cold have them.  Sonja inherited them just a few years ago.

Based on the style of reticulation (piercing) of these plates, they are also called "Ribbon Plates."  Ribbon can be woven through the holes for hanging on the wall.   I've learned from another viewer that practice was quite common in England.

Figurals

Mythological

1920's Joe Manchester in the U.K. said this old plate was inherited by a friend of his whose relative passed away several years ago.

This mythological scene is a transfer print duplication of original work by Angelica Kauffmann, a Swiss-Austrian painter who lived 1741 to 1807.   Her work has been widely duplicated by various porcelain factories, decorating studios, and others.

Figurals

Mythological

14768D

c.1920's My Collection
         

Figurals

Mythological

c.1920's-30's H. C. of Ontario, Canada, recently inherited these beautiful plates from her mother-in-law, who in turn originally inherited them from her grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Moffat.

Mary Elizabeth and Roland Moffat were married in 1910 and came into possession of these plates sometime after 1918 when they took a trip around the world.  They were a very wealthy couple and frequently entertained with large dinner parties.  Roland was a lawyer for General Motors.  He was also the son of George Moffat, Jr., who was a member of Congress in New Brunswick, Canada.   Mary Elizabeth was the daughter of one of the owners of CP Rail.  It is believed there were originally 24 of these plates.  They were divided among the children and have been handed down through the generations.

         

Figurals

Mythological

c.1920's-30's My Collection
         

Figurals

Mythological

c.1920's-30's Cindy Corey Krysa of Deseronto, Ontario, Canada, inherited this beautiful old bread basket that originally belonged to her great grandmother who was Dutch and her husband who was German.
         

 

Figurals

Mythological

Picture contributed by Joseph and Jackie Watkins in Georgia

c.1920's-30's Joseph and Jackie Ann Watkins of Marietta, Georgia, contributed pictures of their beautiful old bread basket found by Jackie in a local shop. 

Figurals

Mythological

Early 1930's Pictures contributed by PDE in California.  PDE's mother purchased these in the early 1930's from Gump's in San Francisco.
Figurals

 Victorian Lady

Picture courtesy of Kenny Sugarman of Douglas, Arizona

Picture courtesy of Kenny Sugarman of Douglas, Arizona  

c.1920's

 Kenny Sugarman of Douglas, Arizona who submitted these pictures said his father was given this plate by an aunt and uncle who personally told him they had received it as a wedding gift

Kenny's father is reasonably certain they were married in New York probably in the 1920's.  He's basing that on the age of their oldest child.

         

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 Victorian Lady

Picture courtesy of Barb VanderRoest in Canada

Picture courtesy of Barb VanderRoest in Canada

c.1920's

In support of Kenny's information above, Barb VanderRoest of Amherst Nova Scotia Canada, contributed these pictures of her beautiful portrait plate which is the surviving one of a pair that originally belonged to Barb's grandmother in Nova Scotia.  

Barb's mother, born in 1920, remembers the plates as a very young child.  She was told she broke the second plate when she was a toddler. Barb's plate is very similar to Kenny's and has a similar red crown mark with only the words "Schumann Bavaria."  Her family history dates it back to the same era as Kenny's plate.

         

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 Victorian Lady

c.1940's-50's Pictures from P.N.
         

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 Victorian Lady

 

Picture Courtesy of Osman Ciloglu of Turkey

Picture Courtesy of Osman Ciloglu of Turkey c.1950 Osman Ciloglu of Turkey who submitted these pictures told us he inherited this 12" plate and 5 smaller matching ones from his grandmother who received them as a wedding gift c.1950.
         

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 Victorian Lady

c.1950 Cheri Shelnutt of N. E. Tennessee, inherited this plate from her grandmother.  Cheri remembers seeing it as a child around 1960 in her grandmother's house.

This Victorian Lady is the same as the green one above except they are each facing in opposite directions.  The plate style of this one is rimless coupe, while the green one has a flat rim.  The roses appear to be the same as those used in the Melrose or Meissen Rose patterns.

         

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Horseback Rider and Maiden

Picture contributed by The Felsenthals in Memphis, Tennessee

Picture contributed by The Felsenthals of Memphis, Tennessee c.1940's-50's The Felsenthals in Memphis, Tennessee, contributed these pictures of a pair of plates Mr. Felsenthal received from his mother and grandmother. 

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Horseback Rider

c.1950 Pictures contributed by Graham in Australia, who has owned this bowl since 1950.

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Sheep Herder and Hunter

Picture Courtesy of Kathy Klaus of North Haven, Connecticut

c.1950's

Pictures contributed by Kathy Klaus of North Haven, Connecticut.

         

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 Angels

Picture contributed by Tim in Belgium

c.1940's-50's

Tim in Belgium found this plate in an old abandoned  farm house.

 

 

     

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Urchins

Dice Players and Watermelon Eaters

c.1950's My Collection

Dice Players

Watermelon Eaters

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Betsy Ross

Watteau "Scenerie of Love"

1949 Judith of Boston, Massachusetts, received this plate from a couple who purchased it years ago from an antique shop on Cape Cod in Massachusetts.  It is actually stamped in gold on the back with the year 1949.  It also has the added Watteau "Scenerie of Love" in gold.

Jean- Antoine Watteau (1684-1721) was a French Rococo-era artist best known for producing romantic scenes like this one of "elaborately costumed ladies and gentlemen in outdoor settings."  His original work has been widely copied and  reproduced on porcelain and tapestries.  This scene was frequently used on Schumann items and came at one point to be known as Betsy Ross (see below), obviously named for the American market.  Whether the original painting of this particular scene was produced by Watteau himself or by an artist working in the "Style of Watteau", I don't know.  In doing searches of Watteau's work, I have not been able to come up with this particular scene in his body of work.  Until I do, I am assuming that Watteau's name on this Schumann plate was used in the generic sense, as one in his style.  Please e-mail if you can add any additional information.

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Betsy Ross

Old Schumann Ash Tray

c. 1940-50's Another version for "Betsy Ross"

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Betsy Ross

Picture contributed by Mary Gavin of La Canada California

Picture contributed by Mary Gavin of La Canada California

Two versions of same marks

1930's Variation of mark used by the Schumann China Corporation of New York City who was the U. S. distributor of Carl Schumann products  (Source:  Rontgen's Marks on German, Bohemian, and Austrian Porcelain, pages 171 and 456)

Pictures contributed by Mary Gavin of La Canada, California.

Dresdner Art China and Schumann Bavaria were brand names used by the Schumann China Corporation in the late 1920's-1930's in America for marketing wares from the Schumann factory (Source:  Page 280 of China and Glass in America 1880-1980 by Dallas Museum of Art).

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Betsy Ross

c.pre-1920's Pictures contributed by Mary Stewart of Palm Desert, California.

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Betsy Ross

Green Panels

c.pre-1920's This is an older version of the green panel design.

Straight-edge Rim

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Betsy Ross

 Yellow Panels

c.1920's Pictures contributed by

 Ron McMahon in Cookeville, Tennessee

Straight-edge Rim

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Betsy Ross

Green Panels

Picture Courtesy of Ignez in Key Biscayne Florida USA

Picture Courtesy of Ignez in Key Biscayne Florida USA 1930's  Pictures contributed by Ignez of Key Biscayne, Florida

Straight-edge Rim

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Betsy Ross

Blue, Pink, Green Panels, Solid Embossed Rims

Picture Courtesy of Carolyn Markie of Virginia USA

Picture Courtesy of Carolyn Markie of Virginia USA 1930's  Pictures contributed by Carolyn Markie of Virginia.

Picture Courtesy of Carolyn Markie in Virginia, USA

   

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Betsy Ross

c.1940's Pictures contributed by Peter Rohrlach in South Australia.
   

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Betsy Ross

White Panels, Reticulated Rim

 

1941-42 Pictures contributed by R. F. in Charlestown, Rhode Island.

R. F.ís grandmother received these Betsy Ross pieces no later than 1941-42 in Chili.  She immigrated from Spain to Chile in the early 1900ís and received these as a gift in the early 1940ís from friends in Germany.  There was an enormous earthquake in Chili in 1939, and R. F.ís mother remembers these pieces arriving no more than two to three years after the earthquake.  Manufacturing time of these baskets was probably 1930ís.   This family story supports others that take these red marks back to the 1930ís.

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Betsy Ross

1945-1949 Cynthia Young of Fort Worth, Texas, shared pictures of this small plate which she found at the estate sale of a couple from Germany.
 

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Betsy Ross

Yellow Panels, Reticulated Rim

1930's My Collection
         

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Betsy Ross

Green Panels, Reticulated Rim

Schumann Bavaria Green Panel Reticulated Dinner Plate

1945-1949 My Collection

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Betsy Ross

Green, Solid Embossed Rim

1940's

My Collection
         

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Betsy Ross

Green, Reticulated Rim

1940's My Collection

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Betsy Ross

Pink, Reticulated Rim

1945-1949 My Collection

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Betsy Ross

Pink, Reticulated Rim

1940's

My Collection

 

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Fish/Fowl/Animal

 
         

Fish/Fowl/Animal

Australian Parakeet Rosella

c.1950's  Pictures contributed by Pam Steele in Australia who received this bowl from her parents.  It is unknown as to how and when they came to have it.
       

Fish/Fowl/Animal

Ducks

1953 Pictures courtesy of  N.C. in Australia who received this plate as a wedding gift in 1953.
 

     

 

Fish/Fowl/Animal

"Parrots"

Picture courtesy of Oliver in Northern Ireland

The added word "Foreign" as part of the mark infers that the plate was made by Schumann for export out of Germany.

c.1920's Pictures contributed by Oliver in Northern Ireland.  This plate has been in his family since 1960, although manufactured much earlier.
 

     

Fish/Fowl/Animal

"Pheasants and Flowers"

Picture contributed by Deb and Ken in Gaithersburg, Maryland

Picture contributed by Deb and Ken of Gaithersburg, Maryland

The green triangular mark may have been an importer, retailer, decorator (any or all of these)

c.1920's or earlier Deb and Ken in Gaithersburg, Maryland, contributed pictures of this very beautiful plate from a cake set that originally belonged to Ken's grandmother.  They believe she most likely found the set at a garage sale (her hobby) in the 1940's. (Footnote 63 above)
         

Fish/Fowl/Animal

"Pheasants and Flowers"

 

c.1920's or earlier

An Anonymous Viewer sent pictures of her beautiful plate which is yet another version of the Pheasants and Flowers.

       

Fish/Fowl/Animal

"Pheasants and Flowers"

c.1920's or earlier Another beautiful plate of Pheasants and Flowers sent by Sarah Bailey of Bakersville, North Carolina.
         

Fish/Fowl/Animal

"Pheasants and Flowers"

c.1922 J. Coelho in Providence, Rhode Island, owns this plate that originally belonged to her grandmother who immigrated to the U.S. from Ireland in 1919-1920 and  married  in 1921 or 1922. 

A cake set of these plates was given to J.'s grandmother as a wedding shower gift when she married in the early 1920's.  J. believes they were most likely purchased at that time from one of the major department stores in Providence.

         

Fish/Fowl/Animal

Pheasants and Flowers

 

Picture Courtesy of S.F. in North Carolina, USA

Maroon border with birds

Old Blue Mark (picture unavailable)  

c.1920's

Amy in Blue Bell, Pennsylvania, has this same pattern in green.  Her set originally belonged to her grandparents who were married in 1924 in Philadelphia.

S.F. in North Carolina sent these pictures from a large set of dishes that originally belonged to her grandparents.  S.F.'s family members believe their grandfather or his family brought them here from Germany well before her mother was born in 1924.
         

Fish/Fowl/Animal

Swans

c.1920's-30's

 

Pictures contributed by Sandra in East Sussex in the United Kingdom.
         

Fish/Fowl/Animal

Swans

c.1950's-70's Jamie Nolan in England contributed pictures of his beautiful Swan plate handed down to him through the family.
         
 

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Forget-Me-Not

Solid Rim

Schumann Forget Me Not Dinner Plate

Scalloped Edge on Rim

Assorted Marks including this one from the 1960's-70's.

c. 1940's-c. early 1970's

Found in both 1961 and 1966 Ebeling & Reuss brochures.

 (Read footnote 21 above for an interesting Forget-Me-Not story.

Mr. and Mrs. Atkins of South Carolina told me they purchased a brand set of FMN in 1980 in Cape Cod, Massachusetts (footnote 38 above).  Manufacturing date, however, would have been back into the 1970's.

D.F. of Macon, Georgia, shared her family story about their Forget-Me-Not china:  "My father was stationed in Germany in the late 1950's, and my mother purchased some of the Schumann Forget-Me-Not and Chalet china in the BX.  After we shipped our household back to the U.S. and before we sold our car, we were riding around town and I noticed my mother's china being sold on the street corner in Wurzburg.  I was only about six years old, but I remember my dad circled the block, and sure enough it was Mother's china.  She got out of the car and bought all that she could.  A family friend, who was also moving to Fort Benning, Georgia, in a few months, packed the china in her household shipment.  Mother's china cabinet is full of Forget-Me-Not and Chalet which she purchased in Germany, but we have added to it over the years.  We wondered why there are so many different type marks on the pieces, but thanks to your site, we now have a better understanding."

Karen Milliorn in New Mexico shared her childhood memories of her beautiful Schumann china:  "I have loved it since my sister and I, as eight and five year olds, felt like "real grown-up ladies," as we had afternoon tea, drinking from our Schumann Forget Me Not teacups which our great aunt had given us in the early 1950's.  We actually started using them around 1957.   Some of  my mother's most treasured possessions were some Schumann Dresden Chateau small plates that always hung on the wall for all to admire.  What memories all of this brings back of my great aunt and my mom, both now many years gone."  Karen thinks her great aunt may have purchased the Schumann on a trip she took to Europe.

         

Forget-Me-Not Chalet

Reticulated Rim

Schumann Forget-me-not Chalet Reticulated Salad Plate

Reticulated Rim

Assorted Marks including this one.  Orlik was a high-end shop on Fifth Avenue in NYC.

c. 1945--c. early 1960's

Found in 1961 Ebeling & Reuss brochure, but missing from 1966 printing.

         

Forget-Me-Not

German Version

 

1945-49 P.S. in Grand Rapids, Michigan, sent pictures of  a German version of a Forget-Me-Not pattern.  Her mother received a complete set from P.S.'s uncle who served in Germany in World War II.

The added words in the mark appear to read US Stanobre Design Oe Schu, which infers a design made for or by Schumann.

         

 

Forget-Me-Not

German Version

Vergiss-meinnicht

German word for Forget-Me-Not

Picture contributed by Stephanie Medwedeff of Lewisville Texas

Picture contributed by Stephanie Medwedeff of Lewisville, Texas

1950's

Stephanie of Lewisville, Texas, contributed these pictures of a lidded serving bowl that she found years ago in a Boston antique store.

Obviously  made for the European market.

         
  Fruit  
       

Fruit

Strawberries

This particular mark is one of the oldest Schumann Lion marks

c.1900-

(pre-1920)

Warren Kundis of Aurora, Illinois, found this old dish in an antique shop in Aurora, which is only a short train ride from Chicago and Marshall Field's department store.   Perhaps this dish was purchased there around 1900 or  shortly thereafter. 
       

Fruit

Grapes

Picture Courtesy of MW in Northern Virginia, USA

Picture Courtesy of MW of Northern Virginia, USA c.pre-1920's MW of Northern Virginia, USA contributed these pictures of her beautiful plate with its unusual octagon shape, pink rim, and luscious grapes.
         

 Fruit

 Plums

Picture contributed by Elsa Poitras of Toronto Ontario Canada

Picture contributed by Elsa Poitras of Toronto Ontario Canada c.1920's This fruit bowl with its older style of reticulation was given to Elsa Poitras of Toronto Ontario Canada by her grandmother..
         

Fruit

Apples and Pears

1930 Lilo Geiger of Roesrath, Germany, contributed these pictures of fruit plates that her mother received as a wedding gift in 1930.

They are a match for the bowl shown below.
         

Fruit

Mixed

Picture Courtesy of Joyce Main in Scotland

Picture Courtesy of Joyce Main in Scotland 1930 This fruit bowl with its older style of reticulation was given to Joyce Main of Scotland by her mother many years ago.

They are a match for the plates shown above that are known to be from 1930.
       

Fruit

Strawberries and Grapes

1920's Graham in the U.K. inherited these plates from his grandmother.
       

Fruit

"Fruit and Flowers"

1930's Pete in Maine contributed pictures of this beautiful plate from his set of 12 that originally belonged to his aunt who moved from New Jersey to Maine around 1940 It is assumed she owned the plates at that time.

Beautiful reticulated rim

         

Fruit

 Grapes

 

1940's Tony in Australia recently acquired this bowl with the older style reticulation and the US ZONE added later with a stamp, inferring a manufacturing time of either during or before the war.
         

Fruit

 Grapes/Mixed

c.1950's Pictures contributed by Ginny Lewis who received two of these plates from her mother-in-law who believes her husband brought these back from Germany during his travels.
         

Fruit

Mixed

1950's This set of 6 fruit plates were a 1953 wedding gift to the parents of Robin Root of San Jose, California.  They are actually seen in the wedding pictures of her parents.  That information has helped to date this particular red mark to the 1950ís.
         

Fruit

Mixed

c.1950's

My Collection

         

Fruit

Mixed

Schumann Bavaria Fruit Plate Reticulated Rim

Schumann Bavaria Fruit Plate Pink Background

c.1950's

Schumann Bavaria Fruit Plate

My Collection

       

Fruit

Mixed

Schumann Bavaria Fruit Plate

Schumann Bavaria Fruit Plate

c.1950's

My Collection
         

Fruit

Mixed

1950's My Collection
       

Fru